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1 | Define wine, please? | Rev 17:2 | Thomas8 | 204166 | ||
"drunk with the wine" Is the Greek word here used for the wine, that causes intoxication, the normal word used elsewhere for wine in the NT? Is there a word for wine that is unfermented grape juice? | ||||||
2 | Define wine, please? | Rev 17:2 | Morant61 | 204212 | ||
Greetings Thomas! There are 11 words in the Old Testament which are translated "wine." There are 4 words in the New Testament which are translated "wine." Each of the words have slightly different meanings and can refer to the product of the grape in each of it’s various stages. The Strong’s numbers are included for each word. Old Testament Words 1) yayin (03196): This is the most common word in the Old Testament. It is used 140 times. It can refer to either a fermented or unfermented beverage. One example of a fermented beverage would be Gen. 9:21, where Noah became drunk. However, Jer. 40:10 uses this word to refer to the harvest of grapes, which is to be stored. One scholar, Dr. Robert Teachout, estimates that the word is used 71 times to refer to an unfermented juice and 70 times as a fermented beverage. 2) tiyrowsh (08492): This is the second most common word in the Old Testament. It is used 38 times. It always refers to a fresh pressed juice, with one possible exception. 3) shekar (07941): This word is used 23 times in the Old Testament. It seems to always refer to a fermented drink and it only used in two ways. The first is in condemnations and the second is in drink offerings (poured on the offering). 4) yeqeb (03342): This word is used 16 times and always refers to unfermented wine. It usually refers to the presses themselves or the fresh product of the presses. 5) Õashiyshah (0809): This word is used only 4 times. It is always translated by the KJV as a "flagon of wine." However, more modern translations translate it as "a raisin cake." Thus, it would refer to grapes themselves, not a beverage. 6) chamar (02562): This word is only used 6 times in the Old Testament. It is actually an Aramaic word. The context makes it difficult to decide how it is used. It seems to be used in both ways. It’s 2 occurances in Ezra probably refer to unfermented wine, while it’s 4 occurances in Daniel probably refer to fermented. 7) gath (01660): This word is only used 5 times. It always refers to the press itself. 8) mamcak (04469): Only used twice. Seems to always refer to a fermented drink. 9) cobeÕ (05435): Only used three times. Seems to refer to a fermented drink, but one which is soured or diluted. 10) chemer (02561): Only used twice. Always refers to unfermented fresh juice. 11) aciyc (06071): This word is used five times. It seems to refer to an unfermented sweetened or spiced drink, with one possible exception. New Testament Words 1) oinos (3631): This word is used 33 times in the New Testament. It is comparable to ‘yayin’ in that it can refer to either fermented or unfermented wine. The prime example being Mt. 9:17, where the fresh new wine is to be put into a new bottle to keep it from fermenting. 2) gleukos (1098): This word is only used in Acts 2:13. Some have said that since the crowd was accusing them of being drunk that this had to be a fermented wine. However, the crowd was mocking them and the word usually refers to a fresh pressed juice. It could have been that they had a reputation for only drink fresh pressed juice and the crowd was making fun of them for it. 3) paroinos (3943): This word is only used twice and both times in a prohibition against drinking. It most likely refers to a fermented beverage. 4) oinophlugia (3632): This word is only used in 1 Peter 4:3 and refers to an excess of wine that some of engaged in in their past lives as unbelievers. It most likely refers to fermented wine. In the case of Rev. 17:2, the Greek word used is 'oinos'. I hope this helps! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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3 | Define wine, please? | Rev 17:2 | Tamara Brewington | 204281 | ||
Wow, you blew me right away, hope I can learn from you someday. Tam | ||||||
4 | Define wine, please? | Rev 17:2 | Morant61 | 204294 | ||
Greetings Tam! Thanks for the kinds words, but I have the advantage of some excellent resources! :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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5 | Define wine, please? | Rev 17:2 | Tamara Brewington | 204302 | ||
Dear Tim, I am intrigued... Pray tell, which recources.. Like an idiot I glanced at the concordance and did not look closely enough to see that there was more than the most prominent number for wine... If you were using another resource, pray do tell what it was, I love to collect and use new Bible tools in my endeavor to be learning more. I haven't had the time until today but I am definitely going to go to your stats and spend the time to learn a few new things... God Bless, Tamara |
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6 | Define wine, please? | Rev 17:2 | DocTrinsograce | 204304 | ||
Tim is one of the only members of our forum -- to my knowledge -- who is able to read Greek. Consequently, he is able to render assistance to us directly from NT Greek texts. | ||||||
7 | Define wine, please? | Rev 17:2 | Tamara Brewington | 204305 | ||
Oh Yeah geez louise... My Pastor is another one... My Pastor made me go take Greek, said, you are ready go do it... My school has a couple prerequisites, had to take Greek Foundations 1,2, before taking NT Greek, haven't taken the NT yet... That stuff is no joke, believe me the demons come out when you go to learn this stuff, they do not want anyone to learn the truth! I am terrible at it though, it is very, very difficult to learn to read a language in different letters... I am in awe of folks that have deicated their lives to learning the original languages, it makes a great big difference when it comes to expository preaching and teaching, sure does... I told my Pastor about this site in the hopes he might find the time while on vacation this summer to teach on line, there is another gem set in pure gold, God blessed our church while we were searching for a pastor. I was glad and surprised when Pastor Moran put his title in his stats and his email too... I Timothy 3:16,17 God Bless the hat lady... |
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8 | Define wine, please? | Rev 17:2 | lionheart | 204308 | ||
Tamara, God's day to you. I am by no means a Greek scholar, not even close. But I'm where I can find my way through Strongs and some of the english Greek dictionaries. Makes a huge difference my dear. In Him, lionheart |
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9 | Define wine, please? | Rev 17:2 | Tamara Brewington | 204313 | ||
I heartily agree Lionheart! Do you have the scriptureanalyzer4all? It has the original language word order for Greek and English with lexical components... You probably know of the esword and www.esword.net and have that. But do you have the legitimate modules for it that are not on their home page site? If you want, email me at whatdoyoubelieve@hotmail.com and I will send you three links... Oh wanna laugh? I rushed out the house this morning after leaving you a note saying I was late for first Sunday... Stupid git, went flying down the street in a white hat and suit for communion and was the only one wearing white in church!... OH MY Gosh, I was wilting all through service pondering seriously about externals............. Then it was time to usher and I felt stupid in white because the other usher was wearing black and had to remind myself I was serving the Lord, not there for a fashion show. Laugh out Loud.................... God Bless, the hat lady |
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10 | Define wine, please? | Rev 17:2 | stjohn | 204315 | ||
Oh My, doesn't our Father have a wonderful sense of humor? And hey, you think maybe the other usher felt out of place wearing black while you were in white? hmmm Sister, check your e-mail I dropped you a line |
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