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1 | Middle East and America in Prophesy | Rev 12:14 | Pastor Glenn | 63221 | ||
Welcome to the forum Chinwe, Rev 12:13 Now when the dragon saw that he had been cast to the earth, he persecuted the woman who gave birth to the male Child. 14But the woman was given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness to her place, where she is nourished for a time and times and half a time, from the presence of the serpent. 15So the serpent spewed water out of his mouth like a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away by the flood. 16But the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed up the flood which the dragon had spewed out of his mouth. 17And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.[2] The "...the woman was given two wings of a great eagle..." (verse 14) could represent the USA, since the Eagle is the national symbol. The USA also help Israel become a nation again in their own land after the dragon tried to destroy all Jews in the holocaust. Gen 25:22But the children struggled together within her; and she said, "If all is well, why am I like this?" So she went to inquire of the LORD. 23And the LORD said to her: "Two nations are in your womb, Two peoples shall be separated from your body; One people shall be stronger than the other, And the older shall serve the younger." Some Arabs are descended from Esau, while others are descended from Ishmael. Genesis 17:20 And as for Ishmael, I have heard you. Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly. He shall beget twelve princes, and I will make him a great nation. Hope this helps, Pastor Glenn |
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2 | Middle East and America in Prophesy | Rev 12:14 | EdB | 63223 | ||
Pastor Glenn Forgive me for saying this but your following statement is a looooong reach. Your overlooking context. "The "...the woman was given two wings of a great eagle..." (verse 14) could represent the USA, since the Eagle is the national symbol. The USA also help Israel become a nation again in their own land after the dragon tried to destroy all Jews in the holocaust." This passage is consider by most to be a description of Israel itself. Going back to Rev 12:1 we see the woman’s description which is clearly the same as seen in Gen. 37:9-11 which we know to be Joseph describing his family which later became the nation of Israel. In Rev 12:2 here we see the women in the pangs of birth which is a common description used for Israel Is 26:17-18, Is 54:1, Hos 13:13, Mic 4:10, Mic 5:2-3. This passage in context clearly is referring to Israel. USA is not mentioned in the Bible in any form that can readily be recognized at this point in time. That is not to say the US is not mentioned only that at this time nothing within the Bible can clearly be recognized as the US. EdB |
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3 | Middle East and America in Prophesy | Rev 12:14 | Pastor Glenn | 63224 | ||
EdB, Sorry, but the woman here IS clearly Israel. The "... wings of a great eagle ..." is what COULD represent the US in helping Israel to become a nation again. 1 Corinthians 13 12For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known. God Bless, Pastor Glenn |
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4 | Middle East and America in Prophesy | Rev 12:14 | EdB | 63226 | ||
Pastor Glenn Sorry I read you wrong the first time I thought you were referring to woman. As to the wings yes they could be USA but not very likely. Britain played a bigger part in Israel becoming a nation than we did. And many contribute the efforts of the Finns in 1906 as being the ones that initiated the rebirth of the nation if Israel. Both Britain and Finland use the eagle to some degree in their country’s symbolism. Many see the wings not as a symbol of a country but rather of indication of how many of the Jews will return home. Major air lifts have brought many Jewish back to Israel. I believe two major air lifts were used to bring the Ethiopian Jews home and Jews leaving Russia by air is an on going process. In the last 10 years 1.5 million Jews or nearly one fifth of Israel’s population has returned to Israel and most if not all by air. Again I repeat the USA can not be clearly seen in prophecy as of yet. As events unfold we may see America being revealed as a participant but to do so now is mere speculation. EdB |
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5 | Middle East and America in Prophesy | Rev 12:14 | Pastor Glenn | 63243 | ||
EdB, Well said. So far, America seems to have simularities between both the eagle's wings and the prostitute that says: "Revelation 18:7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow." Why is there a warning for God's people?: Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. Some people focus only on the Anti-Christ or on the beast. I think the key will be to focus on all of the characters in the prophecy. Every word is important: Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Mat 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. Again, here is the quote from 1 Cor 13: 1Cor 13:9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part. 10But when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away. 11When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known. God Bless Pastor Glenn |
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