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1 | Why did Satan want Moses bones? | Jude 1:9 | Scribe | 85283 | ||
I personaly do not think that Jude is quoting from the Assumption of Moses. The Assumption of Moses, for those that do not know, was in extant at the time of Origen, who thought that Jude might be referring to it. However there is no proof that the Assumption of Moses was in extant at the time of Jude. If it was then it seems to me that Jude would have made it clear in some way like Paul did that he was quoting from an extra biblical source, such as "one of your own prophets has said." But Jude mentions it like it is actual history and so I think it was most likely a Jewish tradition that contained truth. This is the only way I can reconcile it in my mind so far. I think that The mention of Enoch and this mention are not quotes from apocryphal books but rather there have been books written by gnostics and other spurious writers that attempted to fabricate stories based on these mentions in the Bible. But I that is my opinion and I am aware that there are many that have a different one. May God Bless you as you study His Word. |
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2 | Why did Satan want Moses bones? | Jude 1:9 | Emmaus | 85294 | ||
Scibe "The mention of Enoch and this mention are not quotes from apocryphal books but rather there have been books written by gnostics and other spurious writers that attempted to fabricate stories based on these mentions in the Bible. But I that is my opinion and I am aware that there are many that have a different one." The apochryphal Book of Enoch is still extant and Jude was quoting from it in Jude 14: Enoch 1:9. This passage was found also among the Dead Sea Scrolls which date before 70 AD. Jude is dated by many to about 80 A.D. Emmaus |
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3 | Why did Satan want Moses bones? | Jude 1:9 | Scribe | 85323 | ||
The existance of the Book of Enoch among the dead sea scrolls does not proove that Jude was quoting Enoch. It could be that the Jews held to a tradition about a prophecy of Enoch that Jude quotes perfectly under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, and that the writer or writers of the book of Enoch knew of this tradition also but fabricated their version to the point of ridiculousness, as it is fairly obvious that it is a fabulous tale from writers with Greek influence. So Jude's quote of known tradition among the Jews, and the book of Enoch merge on the tradition, but Jude may not necessisarily be quoting from Enoch. The same with the mention of the Body of Moses, it is very possible that Jude was mentioning only that part of Jewish tradition that was actually true history not quoting from the Assumption of Moses, and that the writer of the Assumption of Moses had taken up their own account of the same tradition. There is no evidence that Jude was quoting from these books. The way Jude simply speaks of it as known history makes it sound more like he was speaking of known tradition among the Jews. I really do not know for sure whether he was quoting from them or not. If he was I do not believe that gives them authority as scripture anymore than when Paul quoted from Greek poets. When it comes right down to daily living, I have to believe God has preserved His Word as He said He would, If Jude quoted the book of Enoch, and Enoch is not scripture, then it only stands to reason that the revelation of what Enoch prophesied was passed down through history, before the writing of the book of enoch, and that this account was never recorded by the prophets until Jude, is simply a Divine manifestation of God keeping certain things secret until the time came. And it really does not matter much to me, because even if he was quoting from the book of Enoch, the truth that he is giving at the time is all about the coming of the Lord and judgement upon the ungodly that are teaching false doctrine. If that is what we focus on in this passage we do not really care who he is quoting, we see that this truth of Jude is in agreement with the whole Bible, where as the things in the book of enoch are not at all in agreement but gross Greek/Hebrew fables. |
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