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1 | What does the term sons of God mean | 2 Pet 2:4 | cjm7579 | 231728 | ||
In Gen 6:1-2 it talks about the sons of God saw the daughters of men and married them. I thought the term Sons of God meant angels ? If that is right then how could angels marry the daughters of men? | ||||||
2 | What does the term sons of God mean | 2 Pet 2:4 | CAPTJFB | 231729 | ||
In those pre-Flood days, Satanic rulership over the human family took on added force by persons whom Genesis 6:4 calls “the sons of the true God.” were heavenly “sons of God,” just as Satan the Devil had once been, but they were tempted to come down and take up living on earth because of the “good-looking” daughters of men, who were available for marriage. So these heavenly “sons of the true God” materialized as men and “went taking wives for themselves, namely, all whom they chose.” Possibly, more than one wife each. Among the offspring of such angelic-human marriages were what the Bible calls Nephilim, which means “Fellers,” that is, those who cause someone or something to fall forcibly. “They were the mighty ones who were of old, the men of fame.” (Gen. 6:1-4) Those hybrid Nephilim or Fellers were not of any moral help to mankind, for after that the Bible reports that the earth was being ruined and was filled with violence. This definitely proves that those angelic “sons of the true God” had acted sinfully in marrying the “daughters of men” for sexual satisfaction. That those heavenly sons of God did sin by leaving their invisible spiritual estate and their own proper habitation in God’s celestial service is stated in the Bible. (1 Pet. 3:19, 20; 2 Pet. 2:4, 5; Jude 6) none of them were taken into the great ark that Noah and his three sons built. Being human because of their human mothers, they were drowned in the Flood, along with their earthly relatives. Their angelic fathers dematerialized and unwillingly, under compulsion, disappeared into the spirit realm. There they were obliged to join Satan the Devil as their ruler. |
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3 | Scriptural basis? | 2 Pet 2:4 | GTSpeck | 231748 | ||
Can you please provide the scripture evidence for this sentence? "Their angelic fathers dematerialized and unwillingly, under compulsion, disappeared into the spirit realm. There they were obliged to join Satan the Devil as their ruler." |
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4 | Scriptural basis? | 2 Pet 2:4 | CAPTJFB | 231752 | ||
2 Peter 2:4 Mt 12:24, 26 Jude 6 1Pe 3:19, 20 job shows ALL angels were still in heaven Job 1:6 later this shows that the demons WERE STILL in heaven...then cast out Revelation 12:9. |
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5 | Scriptural basis? | 2 Pet 2:4 | GTSpeck | 231770 | ||
With all due respect, this doesn't support the statement. These scriptures refer to the time when Satan and the angels which followed him were cast out of Heaven. | ||||||
6 | Scriptural basis? | 2 Pet 2:4 | CAPTJFB | 231773 | ||
"Their angelic fathers dematerialized and unwillingly, under compulsion, disappeared into the spirit realm. Okay, first of all do you believe the Bible teaches that the Nephilm were the offspring of the Sons of God? (Disobedient angels)Gen 5:4 If so, consider: The angelic Fathers of the Nephilm left their heavenly position and "chose" wives for themselves Gen 6:2 no doubt with great joy --how "unwillingly" do you think they may have been to have to leave their wives and 'children' when the flood came? Job 1:6 shows that Satan and his demons were still able to go back to heaven. There they NO DOUBT joined Satan the Devil as their ruler--"the ruler of the demons" Matthew 12:24 |
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7 | Scriptural basis? | 2 Pet 2:4 | GTSpeck | 231774 | ||
"Okay, first of all do you believe the Bible teaches that the Nephilm were the offspring of the Sons of God?" No I'm not convinced of that. |
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8 | Scriptural basis? | 2 Pet 2:4 | CAPTJFB | 231780 | ||
Well, Jesus said that in the last days it would be like Noah's day "Men marrying and women being given in marriage",since it was so natural,...so why might Moses under inspiration single out these ones at Gen 6:1,4 ALSO, who do you believe were the ones spoken of at 1 Peter 3:19,20--I'm curious? | ||||||
9 | Scriptural basis? | 2 Pet 2:4 | GTSpeck | 231785 | ||
Given the context of Mt. 24, Jesus was saying that just as the people of Noah's time were living as they pleased and experienced sudden and unexpected judgment, so will his return be. As for Peter, he states that the message had been delivered to those who perished in the flood prior to their destruction (who at Peter's writing were "spirits in prison" - not that Jesus himself went to them in prison). The "spirits in prison" could not have been fallen angels. There is no mention in scripture of angels being given the opportunity of redemption which was given to man. Further, if it was fallen angels who corrupted the earth then why was the flood judgment brought on men and the earth rather than those angels? This scripture also cannot refer to Jesus preaching to the men who died in the flood after their deaths - why would he single this group out and not the remainder of lost mankind? There was no division of hell set aside only for antediluvian man, so even if Jesus had gone there to preach to them, there would have been others there besides them. The sons of God in Genesis refers to the followers of God mingling in marriage with the ungodly line of Cain, to the point that only Noah and his family remained. God addresses this in the law when he tells Israel not to intermarry with those they find in the Promised Land, because they will draw their hearts away from Him and toward their false gods. I appreciate the comments; you've spurred me to look into a couple of things I hadn't before, and that IMO is the whole point of this forum. |
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10 | Scriptural basis? | 2 Pet 2:4 | CAPTJFB | 231799 | ||
'There is no mention in scripture of angels being given the opportunity of redemption which was given to man.' ---???? Did you actually read my response? Because he came off the victor through faithful endurance, the Son of God, as a spirit person, was able to proclaim a message of JUDGMENT against the “spirits in prison.” Since the disobedience of these spirits is linked with the time of Noah, they must be the angelic sons of God who left their original dwelling place in the heavens and took up living as husbands with women. (Genesis 6:1-4)Jude 6 They are spoken of as “spirits in prison” because their punishment included a form of restraint, being forever debarred from their original place among the faithful angels. The words of Jude confirm that only a message of condemnatory judgment could be directed to these fallen angels: “And angels who did not keep their own domain, but abandoned their proper abode, He has kept in eternal bonds under darkness for the judgment of the great day.” (Jude 6) It was Jesus’ faithful endurance to the very death that entitled him to be restored to life and thus put him in a position to preach or proclaim such a condemnatory judgment to the fallen angels. Any readers following this discussion..please comment on what you think of it? READ ALL the scriptures cited please. : Why would Peter link Noah to the "spirits in Prison"?? Many had died up until the time of Christ Also compare Eccl 9:5 |
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11 | Scriptural basis? | 2 Pet 2:4 | GTSpeck | 231800 | ||
Yes I read your response and thank you for confirming with that attitude what I suspected from the beginning - that there truly is no place one can debate or discuss ideas any more in a civil manner. Too bad - I was really hoping this place was different. To those readers following this discussion - say what you will, I won't be seeing it any more. | ||||||
12 | Scriptural basis? | 2 Pet 2:4 | CAPTJFB | 231801 | ||
I'm sorry if I offended you in any way.I honestly believe if this discussion were done face to face you would not have been offended...rather you may have even chuckled knowing my personality and the way I would have stated that question with a smile. | ||||||