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1 | The Word Gifted to the People of God | 2 Pet 1:17 | EdB | 243938 | ||
That statement is untrue and unfair. Yes there has always been heresies but the major change came when social/political/religion entities came together and decided to construct new theologies. Are these theologies all wrong? No! I never said they were. What I said is they did however open doors that never before existed and never should have been opened. End result division within the body of Christ and the appearance of confusion within the body by the observing world. The real problem is this forum was not constructed to fairly allow denominational differences in discussions/debates. That is the exact reason why the Terms of Useage says there should not be any attempt to push a denominational agenda. However there are those among us that insist they must denigrate other denominations within the forum at the expense of this forum. I say make all discussions of the difference in denominations and theology doctrine cease. We should be standing united not discussing the things that divide us. My humble opinion! However that opinion has been mocked, ridiculed and it has been attempted to make it look foolish unlearned, unread, and without thought. Sad! |
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2 | The Word Gifted to the People of God | 2 Pet 1:17 | Beja | 243939 | ||
EdB, What doors? The best I can make sense of what you have said progressively throughout this thread, it sounds like you are against letting people read scripture for themselves, but rather the catholic church was right to tell people not to think about scripture, but rather just let the priests and pope authoritatively declare what it means. It sounds like you are saying we should have never messed with that. Now to be clear, I'm sure that you couldn't possibly be saying that. From what little I know you, I don't think you believe this. So that is why I'm asking, I'm letting you know that you are coming across as this being a possibility of what you are saying. Please correct me, sir. Because I feel confident you must mean something else. You are using so many phrases that we would need to be in your head to know the meaning you assign them. "man invented theologies," "simply following Christ," "Opening doors." And many more terms are things that each individual will fill with their own meaning; this makes your posts in this thread difficult to discern. In Christ, Beja |
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3 | The Word Gifted to the People of God | 2 Pet 1:17 | EdB | 243941 | ||
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4 | The Word Gifted to the People of God | 2 Pet 1:17 | Beja | 243942 | ||
EdB, Helpful clarifications, thank you. I do think it would be implausible to completely avoid denominational differences. But I agree that etiquette in such issues should be considered crucial. Not all wrong theology should be engaged as if heresy. Beja |
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5 | The Word Gifted to the People of God | 2 Pet 1:17 | EdB | 243943 | ||
Beja If theology is considered to be valid within the scope of orthodox Christianity should it be called wrong? Or simply different. I am no talking of cultic theology but Protestant theology that does not stray the boundaries of orthodoxy. Differences can and will be seen but to label them as anything other than differences usually leads to misunderstandings, arguements, hurt feeling and outright nastiness. To refuse to down play those differences and in fact to focus upon them leads to strife, division and the appearance to the unknowing as confusion and division.. |
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6 | The Word Gifted to the People of God | 2 Pet 1:17 | Beja | 243945 | ||
EdB, I believe if something is wrong it should be called wrong. For example there is an example of whether or not to baptize infants. At the end of the day, either we are suppose to or we are not. One view must be wrong. And we ought to consider scripture carefully to decide. There is a time for all things as well. There is a time to focus on these things as we consider them and how they imply us ordering our lives and churches. And there is also a right time as you say to "down play those differences." As a baptist, I ought to be able to have edifying fellowship with a presbyterian, and not feel the need to constantly bring up our differences. All that being said however, there is a big differences between me for example deciding that infant baptism is wrong, and the forum enforcing that denominational conclusion. I am in support of me as an individual (in the appropriate course of studying individual passages and a respectful non-inflammatory way) to have the freedom to point out that a particular passage is against infant baptism and to articulate why I think that passage is against it. However, I do not want the "forum" taking that stance and then censoring those who believe in infant baptism. I want them to be free to show me why they think that passage does not come to my conclusion. We must distinguish between my ability to think (and say) something is wrong, with the forum enforcing my view. In my opinion, the real problem usually comes because none of us are discussing passages. We are only discussing theology in the absence of passages. For example, we might find ourselves discussing whether one can loose their salvation, but we aren't finding anybody studying and discussing Romans chapter 8. Or we aren't discussing those very interesting verses in Colossians chapter 1 that sound like they might be suggesting a loss of salvation as possible (though I don't believe they are.) I've not seen much actual "bible study" on here for some time. We are only discussing theological conclusions, not the passages that form the data upon which we must build those theological conclusions. In Christ, Beja |
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