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1 | in Prisons | 1 Pet 3:21 | jlhetrick | 191749 | ||
Rabban- I have responded to your other post to me. I will respond to this one briefly but fear the interaction may become argumentative or appear that way to others so I proceed with caution. I might fairly state that when approaching a disputed passage the first important thing is to examine the English and not the Greek text as you assert. Unless, that is, your first language is Greek. We might be well reminded that the English text we read has been translated by scholars more worthy than ourselves (though my own assertion would depend on what translation your using perhaps). You see, when the established doctrines and immediate and wider contexts are considered a lot of the guess work is easily ruled out. At once I was amazed by those who seemed to take the position that one need be a scholar of the original languages in order to truly read and comprehend the Scriptures. It’s familiar to others who posit that one must hold a certain, assigned title before the Holy Spirit will reveal the hidden truths of Scripture to him. Now I’m simply saddened by the notions. My faith is that my God has sufficiently (if not conveniently) kept the promise He made in Isa 55:11. I suppose that He has chosen to do that through allowing men to translate His word into the various earthly languages. My reason for such a position is that His church has for centuries been about the business of doing just that. Otherwise, He would have us about the business of all learning Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic and reading, learning, and teaching only from the original languages. I surmise that it was He who chose not to make a scholar of every man. Your points are well considered and your right to them appreciated and respected. Sincerely and God bless, Jeff |
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2 | in Prisons | 1 Pet 3:21 | rabban | 191755 | ||
Hi Jeff, I actually study the original Greek and Hebrew texts although I try to avoid citing them in forums. With so many differing translations, some of which are more reliable than others when dealing with the finer points, while others are more of a paraphrase, it is very often necessary in the case of disputed texts like 1 Peter 3.19 to go back to the exact Greek text. Strictly speaking that is the only one which is inspired. (You failed to take note of the fact that my statement was about 'disputed texts' only). I did not suggest that anyone needed to be a scholar to understand the main doctrines of Scripture. Scripture is broad based and our beliefs should not be determined by a point here or a point there. But when we are dealing with an obscure phrase like 'spirits in prison' about which there is disagreement then certainly reference to the original text is important. We have to be exact. Otherwise we are treating Scripture lightly. It is my experience that the ones who most protest about going back to the Greek text are the first to say 'the Greek text means' when arguing their own case on some disputed position on, say, the second coming, when fitting it into their own schemes. However, we have now both made our positions clear. It would seem therefore best if we leave the matter here. Others can then judge each of our positions as they will. Sincerely in Him Rabban |
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3 | in Prisons | 1 Pet 3:21 | jlhetrick | 191767 | ||
Rabban- thanks for the response brother. I agree with your points to include believing that the original languages are the only inspired writings we have. I'm afraid though that you may not be reading my posts closely as the focus continues to drift. I'm sorry you feel I "failed to take note of the fact" that your statement was about ;disputed texts' only. My post clearly referred to disputed text specifically; but no matter- it has become an unproductive dialogue I would agree. Thanks for the interaction. God bless, Jeff |
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