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1 | Can you prove eternal security? | 1 Pet 1:23 | Voice of Thunder | 141225 | ||
Can you prove the doctrine of eternal security as opposed to losing one's salvation? | ||||||
2 | Can you prove eternal security? | 1 Pet 1:23 | mark d seyler | 141226 | ||
John 3:5-7 “Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.” 2 Corinthians 5:17”Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.” 1 Peter 1:23 “Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.” 1 John 3:9 “Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.” Hebrews 5:8-9 “Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered; And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;” Salvation comes when we believe in Jesus. This belief is not just in that He exists, but in Who He is. He is my Master and Lord, whom I have been in rebellion to. He is God come as man to pay the penalty for my sin. Adam’s disobedience to God cost us our spiritual heritage. Adam was created in the image of Elohim, but in the day that he ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil he died. Though he continued to live, it was a living death. Though he reproduced, he was unable to reproduce the life he was created with, since it was lost, and so we are all born, as it were, dead. 1 Corinthians 15:22 “For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.” Without the fullness of life, i.e. spiritual life, we don’t have any availability of having relationship with God, and we all rebel against Him. Romans 3:23 “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;” We are conceived in sin, and live in sin. Once we become willing to end our rebellion against God, and become obedient to Him, He becomes the author of our salvation. We cannot fool God. We can fool ourselves. We can see an appeal of the gospel, and want the goodies of salvation, but not be willing to actually hand over our self-determination to the Lord Jesus. We can tell ourselves that we are saved, and begin to serve a new legalism of church and whatever works we believe are required, and continue to do as we choose. But if we are sincere in our desire to enter into obedience, God knows this, and becomes the Author (originator) of our salvation. This salvation is re-birth. As in Adam we die, in Christ we are made alive! Having first being born of the flesh, now we are born of the spirit. We are born of incorruptible seed, which lives and abides (stays) forever. We are a new creature. We do not commit sin. God has literally separated us from our sin, from all sin, now and forever. He had to. It is only mankind who sees some sin worse and some better. In the eyes of God it is all the same. James 2:10 “For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.” Neither quantity nor a perceived “depth of depravity” make any difference. We were a natural man. We are born of the Spirit, as spirit. We are now something different than what we were. God sees us only as the new spiritual being we have become. He no longer regards the old creature we were. The new creature we are is not subject to the laws of sin and death (Romans 8:2 “For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.”). The old creature will continue to sin, to the extent that we allow it to (See Romans 7). The new creature cannot sin, being born of God. Our birthright from Adam is sinfulness. Our birthright from God is sinlessness. Jesus, born of the virgin Mary, conceived by the Holy Spirit, did not receive the sinful nature from Adam. When we are reborn, it is not from Adam’s seed, but from God’s incorruptible seed. This means that we are as sinless as was Christ. We cannot sin, for we are born of God! When we pass into the eternal state, the Bible tells us that we will be “clothed upon” with a new body, the mortal shall put on immortality. I Corinthians 15 tells us that we shall be changed, but the change is to our body. We are only waiting for our new body, we already have our new spirit! If we allow our old nature to continue in the works of the flesh, God will reprove and chastise us. We can be stopped from progressing in the works God has before ordained that we should walk in them (Hebrews 12:1 “Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,”). The incorruptible seed, the Word of God, which gives us our birth, lives and stays forever. These words, and so many more like them, are unequivical, to repeat, unequivical. Love in Christ Mark |
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3 | Can you prove eternal security? | 1 Pet 1:23 | DocTrinsograce | 141235 | ||
Wow, and you complimented me on my teeny, weeny answer! I'd say that the sincerity that you mention originates from God, too... :-) You've covered a lot of ground here... good stuff, brother Mark. | ||||||
4 | Can you prove eternal security? | 1 Pet 1:23 | mark d seyler | 141286 | ||
Thank you brother. All good gifts come down from above! Love in Christ, Mark |
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