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1 | New Covenant beginning | Heb 8:13 | Movingon | 240009 | ||
Why do we call Matt,Mk. Lk. Jo. New Testament(Covenant)? | ||||||
2 | New Covenant beginning | Heb 8:13 | Movingon | 240021 | ||
Doc asked if I have been on this website before. I don’t remember posting anything here. As to my remark that Paul’s gospel was a mystery, Doc says: “Who ignores it and it what way?” There are many ways it is ignored. We are taught that Paul’s gospel is the same as the 12 before him. Consequently, we cannot tell the difference between the Lord’s offering an earthly kingdom to Israel and our citizenship in heaven. Paul’s Gospel of Grace was a mystery, including a previously unknown Dispensation of Grace (Eph. 3:1-9) set between the Lord’s first and second coming. His gospel was to establish a special mystery program that had nothing to do with Israel or their offer of the Kingdom by the 12 apostles before him. Paul’s first ministry to the Gentiles began in Acts 13:46-47 some 14 years after Pentecost which was also the beginning of the present assembly of Christ and Dispensation of Grace. The delay of Paul’s calling and ministry was because the Jews were again rejecting the second offer of the kingdom as they had before the cross (Matt. 10:16-23; 22:4-7; Lk. 21:12-24; Acts 3:19-25). Paul’s mystery gospel he named 3 times as “my gospel” it is mentioned nowhere in the Moses, the psalms, the prophets nor the Lord’s teaching. Paul’s gospel being unknown in past ages, what we see in Matt. 10:5 23; 22:1-10 is the same is throughout Scripture. Shown here is only a few Scriptures from the many where there is no break shown for the present age: Gen. 49:10; Isa. 9:6 7; 61:2; Dan. 7:8 9, 12 14, 19 22; 9:26 27; Amos 9:9 11; Zech. 9:9 10; 13:7 9; Matt. 3:11; 10:5 23; Lk. 1:31 33; 21:24 25; Acts 2:17 21; Rev. 12:5 6. And as Paul said, his gospel, this dispensation and rapture were mysteries in past ages until revealed to him (Rom. 16:25; Eph. 3:1-9; Col. 1:25-27). How much evidence do we need to establish such a simple fact? Doc says: You are assuming that the New Covenant took place at the moment of Christ's death. No, I am not assuming anything. I simply quoted Paul’s words. Any debate about where the New Covenant began is between you and Paul. You furthermore say: “I do not think that every Christian in 21 centuries got it wrong. :-) If the gospel message of Christ's birth, life, death, resurrection, ascension, etc. were not absolutely integral to the New Covenant. It would be rather silly to chop up the gospels and place part of them after Malachi and the rest of them just before Acts. :-)” If they say the New Covenant began with Matt. 1:1, then yes, they certainly got it wrong. What is erroneously called the Gospel’s is according to Paul yet part of the Mosaic Covenants. As to it being silly to chop up the Gospels, I never mentioned any such thing. There are between 2 and 3 hundred religious denominations in the United States. That is the reason I am concerned about the incorrect division of the Old and New covenants. That incorrect division is the primary reason for the present confusion in the body of Christ. We have a poisonous mixture of two covenants that are diametrically opposed to each other teaching the exact opposite of the way of eternal life. The last remark here will be addressed in full in another post. I fully understand the Lord saying He was the way of life, but he also said other things that is usually ignored and will be discussed in a later post. Has anyone noticed the Lord’s words when He said: “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel” (Matt. 15:24). Or Matt. 10:5 6, where He refused to let His disciples preach to the Gentiles or even the Samaritans. Because the kingdom was promised to, and still belongs to Israel. As late as Acts 11:19 the disciples were still only preaching to Jews; Luke records: “Now those who were scattered after the persecution that arose over Stephen traveled as far as Phoenicia, Cyprus, and Antioch, preaching the word to no one but the Jews only.” I will make the statement here but it should be placed alone in another thread to prevent confusion. Nowhere did the Lord ever in His earthly ministry directly mention the present church (assembly of Christ) or else there is a head on collision between Himself and Paul. Before anyone reminds me of Matt. 16:18; 18:17 or the churches in Rev. 2 and 3 make sure you have thoroughly studied the evidence. The understanding of this truth has a profound effect on all that we believe. In His grace movingon |
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3 | New Covenant beginning | Heb 8:13 | DocTrinsograce | 240026 | ||
Hi, movingon... We are not a forum created for debate, or the promulgation of unusual or aberrant teachings. Our gracious host, the Lockman Foundation, has us agree specifically to these things in the Terms of Use (TOU). I understand that you want to pedal your books -- although that is also eschewed in the TOU. Ours is necessarily an ecumenical association of Christendom. It is novel to hear from the fringe from time to time, but you might be received in a better light in some of the other forums in which you have participated. There, perhaps, the focus is more on novelty that on Scripture alone. In Him, Doc |
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