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1 | Are Catholic members consider Christian? | Heb 12:23 | keliy | 217309 | ||
Hi fcs, No apologies necessary, we forgive grammar as well as spelling (o: You mention adhering to the Holy Bible in its entirety, and I am with you on that, wholeheartedly. However, to look at it from the other side, the RCC says they have the entire Bible and protestants use only part of the Bible. Do you see my point? History tells us that Jerome, considered to be the 'father of the canon' was dead set against including the apocrypha in the canon -and only after being pressured did he relent and put it in a separate section, -like at the back of the Bible. Catholics do believe in Jesus as the Son of God. This is very unlike the mormons, so that comparison gets squashed at the outset. Same with the J.W.'s. Catholics believe in the Trinity. I do think that many catholics are going to heaven, yet for what I learned about the child-abuse scandal, I think that the present pope should be locked up. When you say "the whole counsel of God is taught/preached in truth." you have to realize that catholics believe that they belong to the one true church. So it is hard to argue for truth with someone who thinks you are protesting against the truth. There are those who have left the RCC, and are now walking in the true light, yes. But catholics have asked me, "if we are wrong then how is it that there are so many protestants converting to catholicism? Speaking of 'true light, Jesus is quoted as saying, "I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life." Jn 8:12 Our Savior also said in Jn 8:31-32, " If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. It is just not possible to make a valid point to someone who thinks you are hopelessly lost unless you truckle over to their belief system. Please keep in mind that it is not flesh and blood at the heart of these disagrements. The battle will rage on until Jesus returns. Try to keep a Christ-like attitude toward the lost sheep is all that I can offer. Lord bless, keliy |
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2 | Are Catholic members consider Christian? | Heb 12:23 | fcs375 | 217314 | ||
Hi Keliy Thanks for your kind words. Just to clarify my position, I certainly don't deny the fact that catholic's believe in the Jesus of the Bible as the Son of God and that perhaps there are those that are saved within the catholic church, I'll leave that to God! Be mindful that scripture is clear that even the demons believe in the Son of God, Jesus Christ. I want to add that because the scriptures (66 OT/NT) in themselves do not refer to or support the catholic accepted apocrypha as inspired scripture in addition to the fact that there are clear historical errors in the apocrypha as well as unbiblical doctrines such as praying for the dead (based on my reading), there is clearly a problem. Remember also that, Jesus himself said that "I am the way, the truth and the life, and NO ONE comes to the Father but through me". That means that we do not access the Father in heaven any other way but through Jesus himself, not by some mere man that has the title father. I would also like to add that being a Christian is having a personal and intimate relationship with Jesus Christ, not practicing religion or rituals and certainly not placing any higher emphasis on anyone or thing other than Jesus Christ himself. Please understand that I do not have any agenda here to attack any group or individual, but that I do care about the truth and getting the truth out, striving to do so with gentleness, kindness and respect. I believe that the Holy Bible (66 OT/NT books)is truly the only inspired word of God and is not subject to change and has one truth. It is man in our sinful nature that corrupts the word of God twisting doctrines etc. I have no denominational bias and believe that those who truly believe and understand what Jesus did on the cross with a truly repentant, broken and contrite heart accepting Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior and have totally submitted to Him are truly saved and it is those who have done that are the true body and bride of Christ (the church). You will know them by their fruits and their love for one another. Following should be a decision to attend a local fellowship that teaches and preaches the whole counsel of God. So having said all that my friend, we've got a lot of work to do! Rub shoulders with people and get the truth out there! God bless you! |
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3 | Are Catholic members consider Christian? | Heb 12:23 | keliy | 217322 | ||
Thank you, fcs for your post, and for making your position so pleasantly clear. We all know that the Bible is the Word of God and that no truth will contradict it. So when we scrutinize the teachings and doctrines of various churches, we actually are following an important command from the Bible, to examine all things (1Thes 5:21, 1Pet 3:15, 2Tim 2:15, Acts 17:11, and Jude 3) Basically, Protestants accuse the RCC of being unscriptural, and the RCC states that the Protestants do not possess the true faith that has been carried through the centuries by the RCC, via 'apostolic succession.' Whichever side you choose, the real issue is whether or not the RCC is representing true Christianity. When Jesus was speaking to the Pharisees He chastised them for misunderstanding God's Word. They were appealing to the tradition of their elders, but Jesus exposed their error by citing Scripture. Some of the roman catholic's doctrines are: purgatory, veneration of Mary and saints, veneration of relics, penance, the mass, the priesthood, confessional, indulgences, and oh, what about the annullment of marriage?! Can these doctrines be backed up by Scripture? I suggest that we can see the reason why the RCC says "Sacred tradition and sacred Scripture make up a single deposit of the Word of God" (CCC par. 97) And who's authority actually makes their tradition 'sacred' (other than themselves)? Gal 5:19 says, "Now the works of the flesh are manifest", and in verse 20, 'heresies is listed. Now, why would heresy be listed as a work of the flesh? because it has to do with pride. Just the same as when satan purposed to cast doubt upon God's Word when he tempted Eve in the Garden of Eden. So, my favorite question to ask catholics is, "Do you believe that Jesus Christ's Blood shed on the cross is sufficient to save you from your sin? because the doctrine of purgatory denies that it is. And without the doctrine of purgatory, the whole catholic system would fall apart. God Bless you, my fellow evangelist. May our Lord increase your territory. keliy |
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