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1 | Define the true church. | Heb 12:23 | rakpak | 217204 | ||
Yes Doc, i am a simple minded Ky boy, and I don't claim to be anything other than that. But I can see very clearly when things are mistranslated or added to. I don't know that we need the "intellectual equipment" to understand the simplicity which is in Messiah. I depend on the guidance of the Holy Spirit to guide me in all truth. Nothing against the professors. | ||||||
2 | Define the true church. | Heb 12:23 | DocTrinsograce | 217208 | ||
Dear RakPak, So, are you saying that one does not need the ability and education of ancient Biblical languages to render an interpretation of the original autographs of Scripture? That is the clear implication of this kind of this kind of spiritual pride. You see, son, that very same Holy Spirit has been tending to the church now for some 2,000 years. A little bit of study will reveal that those translators are not just educated and able, but many are quite Godly men, in good standing with their churches, and led by that same Holy Spirit. The God of the Holy Scriptures is a rational Being. He does not say one thing to a broad spectrum of saints across history, and then suddenly say something utterly unique to a gathering of folks discontented with their prior affiliations. Believers love the gifts of God (Psalm 119:127). Wise men love instruction (Proverbs 9:8). Mature believers stand firm in doctrine (Ephesians 4:14). Those of the household of faith search out stability and learning (2 Peter 3:14-16). Why not learn together with us, rather than to just peddle an old-fashioned legalism? You needn't adjust your practices and your teachings at home. What you need to adjust are your use of the forum for such things. In Him, Doc |
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3 | Define the true church. | Heb 12:23 | rakpak | 217209 | ||
"an old-fashioned legalism" I am starting to see that I am probably not on the right forum. Doc, Do you keep Sunday Holy, do you work or anything? | ||||||
4 | Define the true church. | Heb 12:23 | DocTrinsograce | 217213 | ||
Dear RakPak, There are many forums, with many objectives. If the Lockman's TOU do not allow you to honestly and honorably participate, then perhaps another forum would be more suitable for you. Lockman has made very broad requests, but some folks fall outside the pale of orthodoxy. If you had a Halal Yah forum, you would not want me to come there and espouse non-Sabbatarian, antinomian, or cessationist doctrines all the time, right? I had really hoped that your interests would be less specific than what is strictly your assembly's doctrinal distinctives. You asked, "Do you keep Sunday Holy, do you work or anything?" The focus of all of redemptive history is the finished work of the Lord Jesus Christ (John 5:35-37; Luke 24:27). God finished His work on the seventh day of the week (Genesis 2:2); Christ finished His work on the first day of the week (Hebrews 4:7-11). All efforts of holiness are rooted in what God has done (1 Corinthians 15:17-19; 1 John 3:10; 1 Peter 2:24). I endeavor to keep all of life holy, and I am wholly dependent on the Lord to that end. Regarding the observance of the Lord's Day, I make every effort to set aside that day for and keep it especially holy unto the Lord. If you are interested, you will find the particulars of this observance in chapter 22 of the 1689 London Baptist Confession of Faith. (Being confessional has its advantages for offering definitive answers to questions of this sort.) Specific to your question is paragraph 8 which reads, "The sabbath is then kept holy unto the Lord, when men, after a due preparing of their hearts, and ordering their common affairs aforehand, do not only observe an holy rest all day, from their own works, words and thoughts, about their worldly employment and recreations (Isaiah 58:13; Nehemiah 13:15-22), but are also taken up the whole time in the public and private exercises of His worship, and in the duties of necessity and mercy (Matthew 12:1-13)." You see, I am a Christian first and foremost (Galatians 3:28; Colossians 3:11). I would never offer up the Law as a means for Gentile righteousness -- for I could not keep, nor could the patriarchs (Acts 15:10). The Law convicts (Romans 7:7), but it has no power to save. In Christ, however, I am imputed His complete compliance (both negative and positive) to the Law, and my utter failure is imputed to Him. Amazing! That's a big part of what Paul is saying Romans 4. As John Calvin put it, before my salvation the Law was an enemy, now it is a kind and friendly adviser. The "old-fashioned legalism" I spoke of is carefully and articulately covered generally in Hebrews and more particularly in Galatians. The Holy Spirit knew the areas in which men were prone to err. In Him, Doc |
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5 | Define the true church. | Heb 12:23 | rakpak | 217221 | ||
I appreciate your answer and honesty, and as far as me peddling my legalist views, they seem to be no different than yours, except I observe the 4th commandment and you observe Sunday. And yes we love to fellowship with everyone, and I enjoy feedback from anyone, so feel free to voice your opinions from my webite, thats what its there for, the contact is there. And if you would like, I will post your responses on my website. And like the saying goes, if you are going to err, err to the right, not the wrong. | ||||||