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1 | can a women preach and teach men | 1 Tim 2:12 | Radioman2 | 85783 | ||
THE CHANGING VIEWS OF JOYCE MEYER 'Meyer can be classified as a Word-Faith teacher and as such has shown an inclination to waffle on major doctrines. In her 1991 booklet, The Most Important Decision You Will Ever Make, an evangelistic work aimed at nonbelievers, she resounds the Word-Faith view of Christ’s atonement: '“During that time He entered hell, where you and I deserved to go (legally) because of our sin. He paid the price there ... no plan was too extreme ... Jesus paid on the cross and in hell” (pg. 35, underlining in the original). '“God rose up from His throne and said to demon powers tormenting the sinless Son of God, ‘Let Him go.’ Then the resurrection power of Almighty God went through hell and filled Jesus ... He was resurrected from the dead — the first born-again man” (pg. 36, underlining in the original). '“His spirit went to hell because that is where we deserved to go. Remember in the very beginning of this, I said, ‘When you die, only your body dies. The rest of you, your soul and spirit, goes either to heaven or hell’” (ibid.). '“There is no hope of anyone going to heaven unless they believe this truth I am presenting. You cannot go to heaven unless you believe with all your heart that Jesus took your place in hell” (ibid.). '“Jesus went to hell for you” (pg. 38, underlining in the original). 'All of the above citations are from her chapter entitled, “What Should You Believe?”. The first subheading in this chapter is “What Happened on the Cross?”. Those familiar with Word-Faith vernacular will recall Kenneth Copeland’s 1984 tape, “What Happened From the Cross to the Throne.” Copeland apparently borrowed the title and theme from E.W. Kenyon’s book by the same name. 'Meyer teaches the classic “Born-Again Jesus” gospel that has been taught by Copeland, Kenneth Hagin, Fred Price, John Jacobs, Charles Capps, Benny Hinn and Jan Crouch, to name a few. It’s usually presented under the guise of “revelation knowledge,” given by the Holy Spirit and grounded in Scripture. However, this gospel does not stand up under biblical scrutiny. 'Charismatics many times will make their case by saying, “Jesus went to hell. Doesn’t it say so somewhere in the book of Acts?” 'While it is true that Jesus went to hell (Ephesians 4:8-9; 1 Peter 3:18), attention should be focused on what He did or didn’t do there. Meyer and her kind teach that Jesus went there to pay for our sins, it’s the same kind of payment — or better — that He made on the cross. 'The reader is asked to recall Meyer’s repeated declarations: “He paid the price there ... Jesus paid on the cross and in hell ... Jesus took your place in hell ... Jesus went to hell for you.” 'Every cult and pseudo-Christian sect disparages the cross. An enemy of the cross is one who even suggests that Jesus Christ’s sacrifice on the cross was insufficient for salvation. Anyone who disparages the cross is teaching another gospel. The destiny of such teachers is destruction (Philippians 3:19). Based upon Christ’s atonement for their sins, Christians are not going to hell. Therefore, no enemy of the cross can be a brother in Christ.' ____________________ DOCTRINAL AMBIGUITY OF A WANDERING STAR: THE CHANGING VIEWS OF JOYCE MEYER by G. Richard Fisher and Paul R. Belli To read more go to: (http://www.pfo.org/wan-star.htm) |
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2 | can a women preach and teach men | 1 Tim 2:12 | JDHallKY | 85795 | ||
I agree that Joyce Meyer, Kenneth Copeland, Benny Hinn, et al., are quite incorrect when they teach that Christ went to hell to finish the atonement for sin, but I also have a problem with the idea he went to hell at all. I do not believe Ephesians 4:8-9 or 1 Peter 3:18 indicate Jesus literally went to hell. When Paul, in Ephesians, speaks of Christ "descend[ing] into the lower parts of the earth", he is speaking of Christ entering the GRAVE (Greek, Hades; Hebrew, Sheol). Hades includes both intermediate states, hell and paradise. Thus, Jesus says to the criminal hanging next to him on Calvary, "today you shall be with Me in Paradise"(Luke 23:43). My understanding of 1 Peter 3:18-20 is that Christ has spoken to and drawn all men throughout history through the person of the Holy Spirit, the same Spirit by which he was made alive in the Resurrection. This same spirit spoke to all those now in hell when they were alive, such as in the time of Noah. |
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