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1 | Is God so shortsighted? | 1 Tim 2:11 | EdB | 9540 | ||
Tim You never did answer this question can I hand a pagan a Bible written in his language and giving him time to study and apply it expect him to come away with correct doctrine? Or do you believe important concepts or important information has been left out of the Bible without which the Pagan would reach the wrong conclusions? Way too many people today are taking this passage or that passage and are saying, “we don’t have to live by this, the writer of this passage was just trying to correct a local situation in a local church, this was never intended to pertain to the whole church. Let’s take a crazy example in 1 Cor. 5:1 Paul talks about a man with his fathers wife. Paul calls it sexual immorality (which it is!). Let’s say for the sake of this discussion we have no other teaching on this. What is to prevent someone from saying, “1Cor. 5:1 was written to correct a problem in the Corinthian church and does not pertain to us today. It was written because Paul knew they had some bad genes and he didn’t want genetic mutations to take place that is why he told them it was sexual immorality. That having sex between as son and mother is really the safest sex your keeping it in the family?” I realize this is absurd example but understand if we open the door to do it in one place what is to prevent someone else from coming through that same door and doing in another? Who is to be the final authority? By doing this with any passage like 1Tim 2:11 we are saying God isn’t. !!!!Disclaimer before anybody jumps on me for teaching heresy. Sex between a son and his father’s wife is in fact SIN! Here and many other places in the Bible, it is forbidden!!!! |
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2 | Is God so shortsighted? | 1 Tim 2:11 | Lionstrong | 9567 | ||
Greetings, Ed, A couple of quotes from the Confession: Chapter 1. "VII. All things in Scripture are not alike plain in themselves, nor alike clear unto all: Yet those things which are necessary to be known, believed, and observed for salvation, are so clearly propounded, and opened in some place of Scripture or other, that not only the learned, but the unlearned, in a due use of the ordinary means , may attain unto a sufficient understanding of them.... "IX. The infallible rule of interpretation of Scripture is the Scripture itself: and therefore, when there is a question about the true and full sense of any Scripture (which is not maifold, but one), it must be searched and known by other places that speak more clearly." I agree with these statements and therefore believe that anyone can pick up a Bible in their own language and read it and understand enough of it to be saved. Further, no outside source is necessary to gain a sufficient understanding of what God has inspired. He knew when He inspired it that His church (OT and NT) would need it and use it until judgement day. So what it teaches as our rule of faith and obedience is universal. Outside sources can be used, but the only infallible rule of interpretation of Scripture is Scripture itself. |
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3 | Is God so shortsighted? | 1 Tim 2:11 | EdB | 9583 | ||
Yes yes a thousand times yes!!!!! This is exactly what I'm talking about. By the way I like your Plenenary, Verbal, Confluent, Inerrant definitions. I too are one. I do not believe there is one word in the Bible that God didn't intend to be there. I then say if God intended them to be there he had to have a reason for them. If we dismiss them as issues from another place and times we stand in danger of dismissing what God intended to say. Let me use your example I quote, "For instance, 1 Cor. talks about praying with head coverings. Paul gives a command there, but most of us realize that this was a cultural custom from a different time, so we don't pray with our heads covered. However, we do recognize that there is a universal principle being taught as well." Let me ask a question, do you view the church today as being in the place Jesus wants it to be? Do you see it victorious, leading the way, effecting governments and nations for Christ or do you see it rather as almost fighting for survival defending itself on all sides from attack. Let me ask another question, could the problem be we have dismissed things like this and somehow placed ourselves outside God's perfect will? Have we compromised this out and that out until we have literally compromised ourselves out of God's power and will? |
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