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1 | Is God so shortsighted? | 1 Tim 2:11 | Morant61 | 9443 | ||
Greetings EdB! I read both this question and your amended question! I can't really think of any doctrine that would necessarily be effected by the historical data. But, in your original question, you did not specify doctrine. I was simply replying to your open ended question about whether or not it was possible to fully understand Scripture without consulting circumstances or history. I do believe that we need to dig deeper into circumstances and history to fully understand some passages, especially those of an occasional nature. So, I'm not sure if I can simply answer "yes or no." p.s. - Don't worry about wars, I don't fight with brothers! :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | Is God so shortsighted? | 1 Tim 2:11 | EdB | 9540 | ||
Tim You never did answer this question can I hand a pagan a Bible written in his language and giving him time to study and apply it expect him to come away with correct doctrine? Or do you believe important concepts or important information has been left out of the Bible without which the Pagan would reach the wrong conclusions? Way too many people today are taking this passage or that passage and are saying, “we don’t have to live by this, the writer of this passage was just trying to correct a local situation in a local church, this was never intended to pertain to the whole church. Let’s take a crazy example in 1 Cor. 5:1 Paul talks about a man with his fathers wife. Paul calls it sexual immorality (which it is!). Let’s say for the sake of this discussion we have no other teaching on this. What is to prevent someone from saying, “1Cor. 5:1 was written to correct a problem in the Corinthian church and does not pertain to us today. It was written because Paul knew they had some bad genes and he didn’t want genetic mutations to take place that is why he told them it was sexual immorality. That having sex between as son and mother is really the safest sex your keeping it in the family?” I realize this is absurd example but understand if we open the door to do it in one place what is to prevent someone else from coming through that same door and doing in another? Who is to be the final authority? By doing this with any passage like 1Tim 2:11 we are saying God isn’t. !!!!Disclaimer before anybody jumps on me for teaching heresy. Sex between a son and his father’s wife is in fact SIN! Here and many other places in the Bible, it is forbidden!!!! |
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3 | Is God so shortsighted? | 1 Tim 2:11 | Morant61 | 9545 | ||
Greetings EdB! I must been half asleep because I could have sworn that I did answer, but maybe I didn't. :-) My short answer is this: If the pagan used sound interpretational principles, I think that he would come away with sound doctrine. However, without any other resources (history, language, culture, ect...) I believe that there would be some passages of Scripture that he (or she, since a pagan can also be a woman) would not have a clue as to what they were saying. Like I said previously, I can't really think of a single doctrine that hinges on history or culture. However, I can think of plenty of Scriptures that can be misapplied because of a lack of understanding of history or culture. Concerning your illustration, I don't believe that anyone on the forum has been saying that because a verse may have an occasional or limited application that it doesn't apply to anyone else. The issue is do we correctly understand the situation that Paul (or whatever other writer) was addressing! Obviously Paul is giving a command in 1 Tim. 2:11! Once we understand what that command is and the circumstances surrounding it, then we must apply it to today as well, not simply ignore it. I just haven't been satisfied with any interpretation of the passage that I have seen thus far. There are simply too many unanswered questions for me to be dogmatic on this issue, especially when the rest of Scripture seems to make the opposite case. I'm going to try to do some more research of 1 Tim. 2:11-12 over the next few days. I'll get back to you with my results. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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