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1 | Jesus speaks as the archangel? | 1 Thess 4:16 | Jluna | 8872 | ||
In reference to 1 Thes. 4:16, Jehovah Witnesses claim that the Lord will come with the voice of the archangel, therefore making Jesus Michael the Archangel. How do I refute that? Thanks, Joseph |
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2 | Jesus speaks as the archangel? | 1 Thess 4:16 | Hank | 8873 | ||
Well, in the first place, the Bible does not reveal a great deal about the ranks or organization of the heavenly beings we call angels. Jude 9 does, of course, name Michael as an archangel, but Daniel 10:13 speaks of him as being "one of" not "the only one."......The passage, 1 Thess.4:16 says "the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God..." The phrase, "with the voice of an archangel" no more means that Christ will become Michael the archangel than the next phrase, "and with the trumpet of God" means that Christ will become a trumpet..... If, in fact, the cult to which you refer interprets this verse in such a way, it is by no means the only unorthodox twist they have made to the meaning of Scripture. --Hank | ||||||
3 | Jesus speaks as the archangel? | 1 Thess 4:16 | Jluna | 8874 | ||
Thanks for your answer Hank. They way I put it was that if you qualify the voice of the archangel with Jesus, you are making them both one and the same, therefore you must also make the same parallel with John 1:1 putting the Word of God and the word as one, revealing Jesus as God. Thanks for the input brother, Joseph |
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4 | Jesus speaks as the archangel? | 1 Thess 4:16 | Hank | 8876 | ||
Joseph, while I confess that I'm not entirely sure I understand you, I'll venture to say this: The passage in 1 Thess.4:16 says "the Lord....with the voice of the archangel." Of course, John 1:1 says, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." This verse not only affirms the pre-existence of Christ, but says unequivocally that Christ (the Word) was with God -- in communion with yet distinct from God -- and was God -- identical in essence with God; hence, of the Triunity. Saying that "in the beginning was the Word" is not the same thing as saying, "with the voice of an archangel." Having "the voice of an archangel" is not being an archangel." A vocalist may sing like a bird (have the voice of a bird) but does not become a bird. --Hank | ||||||
5 | Jesus speaks as the archangel? | 1 Thess 4:16 | Jluna | 8877 | ||
Dear Hank: My answer was especifically geared to a Jehovah Witness's mind so that in this case they cannot think Michael the archangel and Jesus are one, while on the other hand they deny that the Word of God and God are one God. Thanks, Brother Joe |
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