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1 | Correcting the translation | Col 2:16 | EdB | 25957 | ||
I still don't know what your saying. I read what you said, and I understand the words, but what is your point? EdB |
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2 | Correcting the translation | Col 2:16 | djconklin | 25960 | ||
Well, then we're in a bind Ed because I don't know how to make it any simpler. Maybe from my email feedback someone will give me a hint. | ||||||
3 | Correcting the translation | Col 2:16 | EdB | 25964 | ||
Your saying the verse is incorrectly translated. Your saying it is talking about festivals and fasts. Okay now how do I apply your translation to my life? Does anything change? Should I not go to a feast or not fast or not celebrate sabbaths? How do I apply your way of translating this verse to my life is my question? EdB |
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4 | Correcting the translation | Col 2:16 | djconklin | 25970 | ||
Ah, now I see where you are at! First, a little thing about exegesis (I also have a small page at my web site where I list about 25 links to which one can go so one can learn how to do it) (in very broad terms here): you start with the grammatical and linguistic analysis, then you look at its context (literary and historical), then and only then do you move to application. So, in this case, I have a ways to go to get where you want to be. However, I can tell a few things based on what I have seen. 1) If your church is having potluck after church and someone comes in and says that if you are really serious about communing with God then you shouldn't be feasting, that instead you should be fasting then based on this verse I would say that you can safely ignore what they are saying. However, I have never seen this type of scenario in today's world. 2) The more likely scenario is that someone will tell you that in this verse Paul is saying that we don't have to follow the dietary laws or keep the Sabbath. Based on what Paul actually wrote we can now know that is not the correct interpretation of this verse--which makes me wonder about any other translation of any other verse that the person may then talk about--note the "contra" (source(s)) that I have in the footnotes to my study, these people are particularly suspect. 3) Paul is definitely not talking about "not celebrate sabbaths", but rather the believers at Colossae were being judged for _how_ they were celebrating. Since he wrote this between 57-62 A.D. that means that the believers at Colossae were celebrating the days without condemnation from Paul. So, does that mean we should doing it? I don't know; I have noted a number of people who think we should. |
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5 | Correcting the translation | Col 2:16 | EdB | 25974 | ||
So can I take it from what you said in point 2 that we are still under the dietary laws and that we still need to keep the seventh day sabbath? Thanks so much for the lesson in exegsis I will insure those points are in my notes on the subject EdB |
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6 | Correcting the translation | Col 2:16 | djconklin | 25980 | ||
Well, when you go to your doctor for your yearly physical and he tells you start eating decent ... ;) My grandfather went in and told him that after every breakfast he'd have these gas pains. So,the doctor asked what he had for breakfast. "Eggs, hash browns and pork sausage" Well, do away with the prok sausage" And presto the gas pains went away! Or, you watch the news and they tell you that too many Americans are overweight, they tell you about the rise of diabetes, they tell you about high cholestoral, how unheathy junk food is, etc., etc. doesn't all start to make sense that the manufacturer would tell you what not to eat? And after having worked a long hard grind at work isn't it nice to have a day off? And since there isn't a clear word that either the dietary laws or the Sabbath has been done away with (we know it isn't in Col. 2:16-17 at least) doesn't that mean that they are still in effect? The best I can do right now is from the negative angle. |
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7 | Correcting the translation | Col 2:16 | EdB | 26002 | ||
You sure dance around answering a question. So I take you are for the dietary laws and seventh day Sabbath? A yes or no will do. EdB |
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8 | Correcting the translation | Col 2:16 | djconklin | 26009 | ||
Ed, I don't "dance" period! I refuse to be the "instant expert" type who spouts off. All I can tell you is what I found. My personal life is betrween me and God just as yours is between you and Him. He gave us a brain to use and I'll use mine the best I can. If you don't like it and have to attack me then that says more about you than me. |
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9 | Correcting the translation | Col 2:16 | Hank | 26010 | ||
djconklin, you don't have to dance unless you really want to :-) Just state your position on dietary laws and the seventh-day Sabbath, if you have one. By the way, I could be mistaken, but I thought Ed was asking you the same thing, not attacking you in any way. --Hank | ||||||
10 | Correcting the translation | Col 2:16 | Radioman | 26019 | ||
If you guys had the ability to read (especially minds); if you were smart enough not to make assumptions (where insufficient data exists); if you possessed a suprior mentality such that you always made good grades; if you could impress people with the length of your bibliographies; in short, if you had attended grad school, you would be brainy enough to figure out his position, which is: He has no position. His only position is that he, poor writing and communication skills aside, is right and all uneducated swine are wrong. If you don't believe it, just ask him. | ||||||