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1 | Just out of curiosity. | Phil 1:23 | jlhetrick | 205154 | ||
Val, having observed you on the forum for some time I know you to be a disciplined student, able to evaluate verses related to their immediate and wider, biblical context. Becuase we know that paul never tired of teaching, speaking of the beginning, "elementary teaching about the Christ" and we have the language there of "milk" and "meat" I believe we're dealing with a lecture form of 2Timothy 2:15. The babe grows into a child by the milk and then must consume the protein of the meat to grow into maturity. Otherwise there will be a failure to thrive leading to a premature death. We build on a foundation (milk) and finish the house (meat). Interesting (to me) analogy: At a place not too far from where I live and work someone began to build a fairly large, multiple unit storage facility. They completed the foundation and even had part of the framing up. Rumor has it that they ran out of money and could not finish the work. In time, the strong, New Mexico winds toppled the unattended structure. Today, you can not see the foundation that has been covered by the blowing sands. Had they been in possession of, or known where to access the needed money (meat) the structure would have been finished and serving it's purpose today (assumable). Praise God that He has saved us and furthermore, gave us some capacity to know Him even beyond that through the teaching of His word as the Spirit leads us. Hope this is a helpful starting piont. Jeff |
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2 | Just out of curiosity. | Phil 1:23 | lookinforacity | 205259 | ||
Hi Jeff: Just for clarification Purposes. You said Quote. "The babe grows into a child by the milk and then must consume the protein of the meat to grow into maturity. Otherwise there will be a failure to thrive leading to a premature death. We build on a foundation (milk) and finish the house (meat)." "Today, you can not see the foundation that has been covered by the blowing sands. Had they been in possession of, or known where to access the needed money (meat) the structure would have been finished and serving it's purpose today (assumable)." Clarification Point? Are you saying , if a person doesn't eat meat, the you will Spiritually Die, (ie) Lose their Salvation ? God Bless Jim |
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3 | Just out of curiosity. | Phil 1:23 | jlhetrick | 205261 | ||
Hello Jim- NO, not what I'm saying. Thanks for the question. As Paul does, the "milk" and "meat" are alagories. We are born spiritually dead. When we are saved we are sealed, given the Holy Spirit in our hearts, a promise from God 2Cor 1:22. That promise can be found in Phil 1:6 The Scripture says we are "called..with a holy calling". What is that calling? Matthew 5:16 says we are to let our "light shine before men" that they might "see our good works" that those works might "glorify" God. Eph 2:10 says that we are "created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them". When we are saved we are "called...for good works" and those works were "prepared" by God "beforehand". What are those works????? A better question in this context might be...where do we find out those works? Of course the answer is found in only one place. Scripture! So while salvation is of God and God alone, he purposes that we glorify Him through works that He has prepared for us. In other words, we're not called to a "stagnate" life as Christians, therefore, Paul's calling to move beyond the milk. 2Tim 2:15, knowing what we can know as God reveals Himself in His word and "becoming" workmen as He carries out His plan through us. Phil 1:6 speaks to the work of our being sanctified by God. That is a process and while it is fully of God, there is sumbission and participation from us. In referencing the "milk" and the "meat" Paul was not saying there is a process of gaining or losing salvation. He was speaking to their irresponsible response to God having saved them. Understanding this, in my opinion, helps in understanding how God's sovereignty and man's free will coexist. God does the saving (all by Himself) and He does the sanctifying (all by Himself) and we, the saved, participate in the process. Hope this helps clarify my position and I'm sorry if it's a bit knotted up; I am at lunch and only have a short time before I have to get back at it. God bless, Jeff |
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