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1 | Who constitutes the church? | Eph 4:3 | Morant61 | 206091 | ||
Greetings Doc! I apologize if I misunderstood you my friend. I thought that when you wrote: "The Church of the Nazarene, has its roots in the Holiness movement, which had roots in the Wesleyan tradition, which had roots in Arminianism, which had roots in Semi-Pelegianism." that you were saying that the Church of the Nazarene was semi-pelegian. :-) As far as Wikipedia is concerned, that may be the first time I have ever quoted it. :-) But, I have heard other Calvinists attempt to make a connection between Arminianism and the heresy of semi-pelegianism. Since the Church of the Nazarene is Arminian in theology, I am glad to hear that you were not making that connection. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | Who constitutes the church? | Eph 4:3 | DocTrinsograce | 206170 | ||
Dear Tim, I had a great grandfather who was a Rabbi. That doesn't make me a Rabbi. :-) Regarding the Armininanism and semi-pelagianism connection, I have read theologians who associate them: e.g., Robert L. Dabney (1820-1898), in his Systematic Theology (on Effectual Calling); A. A. Hodge (1823-1886), in his Theological Outlines (on Pelagianism, Semi-Pelagianism, and Augustinianism); Benjamin B. Warfield (1851-1921), in his Autosoterism; J. Gresham Machen (1881-1937), in his Christianity and Liberalism; Lorraine Boettner (1901-1990), in his The Reformed Faith (on Universalistic Passages); etc. I think I understand why. Nevertheless, insofar as historic -- emphasis on that word historic -- Arminianism is concerned, I see at least one clear distinction. (You mentioned original sin, however the two view points actually share that teaching.) Contrary to semi-pelagianism, the Remonstrants affirmed "That man has not saving grace of himself, nor of the working of his own free-will, inasmuch as in his state of apostasy and sin he can for himself and by himself think nothing that is good -- nothing, that is, truly good, such as saving faith is, above all else. But that it is necessary that by God, in Christ and through His Holy Spirit he be born again and renewed in understanding, affections and will and in all his faculties, that he may be able to understand, think, will, and perform what is truly good, according to the Word of God." Any other perspectives they share, I lack the interest to ferret out... a very different, stack of unread books are calling to me! In Him, Doc |
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