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1 | Salvation is of the Lord | Eph 2:8 | DocTrinsograce | 146197 | ||
"If anyone affirms that we can form any right opinion or make any right choice which relates to the salvation of eternal life, as is expedient for us, or that we can be saved, that is, assent to the preaching of the gospel through our natural powers without the illumination and inspiration of the Holy Spirit, who makes all men gladly assent to and believe in the truth, he is led astray by a heretical spirit, and does not understand the voice of God Who says in the Gospel, 'For apart from Me you can do nothing' (John 15:5), and the word of the Apostle, 'Not that we are competent of ourselves to claim anything as coming from us; our competence is from God' (2 Cor. 3:5)." --Council of Orange (529 AD) | ||||||
2 | Salvation is of the Lord | Eph 2:8 | Emmaus | 146248 | ||
Doc, Good quote from the Council of Orange. Here is a similar one from the Council of Trent. "It is furthermore declared that in adults the beginning of that justification must proceed from the predisposing grace of God through Jesus Christ, that is, from His vocation, whereby, without any merits on their part, they are called; that they who by sin had been cut off from God, may be disposed through His quickening and helping grace to convert themselves to their own justification by freely assenting to and cooperating with that grace; so that, while God touches the heart of man through the illumination of the Holy Ghost, man himself neither does absolutely nothing while receiving that inspiration, since he can also reject it, nor yet is he able by his own free will and without the grace of God to move himself to justice in His sight. Hence, when it is said in the sacred writings: "Turn ye to me, and I will turn to you",[Zach 1:3] we are reminded of our liberty; and when we reply: "Convert us, O Lord, to thee, and we shall be converted",[Lamentations 5:21] we confess that we need the grace of God." Emmaus |
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3 | Salvation is of the Lord | Eph 2:8 | DocTrinsograce | 146249 | ||
Here's another, based on Ephesians 1:2-14: "Above he (Paul) used the word, 'He chose us;' here he saith, 'we were made a heritage.' But inasmuch as a lot is a matter of chance, not of deliberate choice, nor of virtue, (for it is closely allied to ignorance and accident, and oftentimes passing over the virtuous, brings forward the worthless into notice,) observe how he corrects this very point: 'having been foreordained,' saith he, 'according to the purpose of Him who worketh all things.' That is to say, not merely have we been made a heritage, as, again, we have not merely been chosen, (for it is God who chooses,) and so neither have we merely been allotted, (for it is God who allots,) but it is 'according to a purpose.' This is what he says also in the Epistle to the Romans, (Rom. 8: 28-30.) 'To them that are called according to His purpose;' and 'whom He called, them He also justified, and whom He justified, them he also glorified.' Having first used the expression, 'to them that are called according to a purpose,' and at the same time wishing to declare their privilege compared with the rest of mankind, he speaks also of inheritance by lot, yet so as not to divest them of free will. That point then, which more properly belongs to happy fortune, is the very point he insists upon. For this inheritance by lot depends not on virtue, but, as one might say, on fortuitous circumstances. It is as though he had said, lots were cast, and He hath chosen us; but the whole is of deliberate choice. Men predestinated, that is to say, having chosen them to Himself, He hath separated. He saw us, as it were, chosen by lot before we were born. For marvellous is the foreknowledge of God, and acquainted with all things before their beginning." --John Chrysostom (Homilies on Ephesians) |
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