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1 | Oneness theology wrong again | 2 Cor 13:14 | BradK | 218127 | ||
Hello 5282tj, Welcome to the Forum. You said, "Jesus did not need a body to take back to Heaven with him. He was a spirit creature before he came to Earth and went back to being a spirit creature, when the need for a body came to an end." What scripture(s) would you use to support that? In noting Acts 1:11, do we not see that He ascended with a body and will also return in like manner? We know Jesus has a glorious body, as Phil. 3:21 tells us, "...who will transform the body of our humble state into conformity with the body of His glory"(NASB) Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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2 | Oneness theology wrong again | 2 Cor 13:14 | 5282jt | 218136 | ||
That body was,a litte lower than the angels, as Hebrews 2:9 says "But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man." What significance would it have alongside powerful angels in Heaven? Plus, according to Hebrews 10:10 Jesus offered up that body, why would he take it back? "By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all." I wonder where these oddball teachings come from? I have never even heard this one before??? I assume writers for TV evangelists or books think these things up, looking to "add to" the simple truth the bible teaches and interest the intellectual ones? Then, [I assume] certain churches pick up these teachings and individuals, such as yourself learn them? The pharisees added much to the law and the people of that time believed and followed their additions as well. Jesus, of course, rebuked them for what they did. |
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3 | Oneness theology wrong again | 2 Cor 13:14 | BradK | 218137 | ||
Hello 5282jt, I'm not sure what you mean by your statements: "I wonder where these oddball teachings come from? I have never even heard this one before???" Are you saying you doubt the veracity of what I said? It's a generally understood, well-founded Orthodox view! Allow me to quote Charles Hodge- in part- from his Systematic Theology regarding the Ascension of Christ- Acts 1:9 And after He had said these things, He was lifted up while they were looking on, and a cloud received Him out of their sight. Acts 1:10 And as they were gazing intently into the sky while He was going, behold, two men in white clothing stood beside them. Acts 1:11 They also said, "Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into the sky? This Jesus, who has been taken up from you into heaven, will come in just the same way as you have watched Him go into heaven." (NASB) "From these accounts it appears, (1.) That the ascension of Christ was of his whole person. It was the Theanthropos, the Son of God clothed in our nature, having a true body and a reasonable soul, who ascended. (2.) That the ascension was visible. The disciples witnessed the whole transaction. They saw the person of Christ gradually rise from the earth, and "go up" until a cloud hid Him from their view. (3.) It was a local transfer of his person from one place to another; from earth to heaven. Heaven is therefore a place." "Luther argued that as God’s right hand at which Christ in his glorified body sits, is everywhere, so that body must be everywhere. "All these on his ascension he laid aside, and now dwells in heaven as a glorified man." Sitting at the Right Hand of God- "This is the next step in the exaltation of our Lord. He rose from the dead, ascended into heaven, and sat down at the right hand of God; that is, was associated with Him in glory and dominion. The subject of this exaltation was the Theanthropos; not the Logos specially or distinctively; not the human nature exclusively; but the theanthropic person. When a man is exalted it is not the soul in distinction from the body; nor the body in distinction from the soul, but the whole person." [Charles Hodge, Systematic Theology] We must remember, He is the God-man (1 Tim. 2:5)- theanthropos. Christ is the eternal Son of God. I trust this further clarifies what I'm saying. Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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4 | Oneness theology wrong again | 2 Cor 13:14 | 5282jt | 218141 | ||
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5 | Oneness theology wrong again | 2 Cor 13:14 | Makarios | 218144 | ||
Greetings 5282jt, There is absolutely nothing within the context of Acts 1-2 that would in any way indicate that the ascension of the Lord Jesus into heaven was in any way a vision only: Mark 16:19; Luke 24:51; John 3:13; Acts 1:11; Heb. 9:24; 1 Peter 3:22. Christ rose from the grave, bodily, and He ascended into heaven also bodily! Blessings to you, Makarios |
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