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1 | Martin Luther actually said | 2 Cor 11:4 | EdB | 243382 | ||
One man said What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it? Another man said Be a sinner, and let your sins be strong,… (1) One of the men quoted above also said, 1 Timothy 6:20 (NASB) 20 O Timothy, guard what has been entrusted to you, avoiding worldly and empty chatter and the opposing arguments of what is falsely called "knowledge"— One of the men quoted above once advised another man to go ahead and marry a second woman but keep quiet about it. (2) That same man teaches on soul sleep, much like the Jehovah Witnesses (3) While the other man quoted said. 2 Corinthians 5:6, 8 (NKJV) 6 So we are always confident, knowing that while we are at home in the body we are absent from the Lord. 8 We are confident, yes, well pleased rather to be absent from the body and to be present with the Lord. The man that said go and sin strongly, get married to a second women but be quiet about it and taught on soul sleep, was the Martin Luther. Of course it was Paul that said do not continue in sin, it was also Paul that wrote the passage 1Tim. 6:20 and 2 Cor. 5:6,8 and it was Martin Luther that said just the opposite and advised a married man to marry a second women and to keep quiet about it. Interesting how he is quoted so often here but none of these things are ever mentioned. (1) Martin Luther “Let Your Sins be Strong†a letter from Luther to Melanchthon Aug 1521, Project Wittenberg, Retrieved Oct 1 2006 (2) Brecht, Martin, Martin Luther, translator James L Shaaf, Philadelphia: Fortress Press 1985-93, 3:205-15 (3) English Translation Francis Pipe, Christian Dogmatics, vol 3 Saint Louis: CPH 1953 3:512 |
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2 | Martin Luther actually said | 2 Cor 11:4 | EdB | 243383 | ||
I might add Martin Luther also hated Jews and said they should be destroyed as vermin. Sounds like the perfect picture of Christian charity. |
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3 | Martin Luther actually said | 2 Cor 11:4 | DocTrinsograce | 243386 | ||
Dear Edb, He applied the passage: "You men who are stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears are always resisting the Holy Spirit; you are doing just as your fathers did." (Acts 7:51) Thus holding the same position as did Paul -- who will also fail under such broad strokes of the brush -- regarding those who rejected the Word of God. He even had more animus for people who held to private revelations -- you can read about them as luther connected with the anabaptists and folks like Thomas Muntzer. How can any man love the Word and not hate those who intentionally and continually refuse its revelation? One of the more humorous quotes of Luther was when he said, "They have swallowed the Holy Ghost feathers and all!" So as with such hateful criticism of anyone slightly Reformed, I cannot but wonder what kind of spirit is at work? Certainly not the Holy Spirit. Such malevolence should prick ones conscience a la Romans 9:1 long before such language becomes a public post. Oh how I long to interact with men who are anointed by the Spirit -- the one who instructs in the Word. Their first and foremost evidence of this, would be a far greater charity than I have seen here; a charity arising out of the fruit of the Holy Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) without contrivance and without hypocrisy. By their fruit ye shall know them. All who look to the Scriptures alone will know what I mean, for the Word is a perfect mirror (James 1:23). Others will find self-justification easy to stir up from their own heart. In Him, Doc |
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4 | Martin Luther actually said | 2 Cor 11:4 | EdB | 243389 | ||
You say Luther applied Acts 7:51? Okay. Where does it say Jews are vermin and should be exterminated in scripture? Broad strokes of the brush? Paul's life admittedly was a mess before his salvation but we aren't talking of Luther before salvation but actually years after when he is touted by some as a great theologian. I hold no love for anyone that claims personal revelation if that revelation is not contained within the boundaries already set by scripture. Luther called for the destruction of Jews and called for physical rebellion and killing, called for men to be sent to the stake. Show me any of that in New Testament theology or the teachings of the Holy Spirit. You say you long to react with men anointed with the Holy Spirit but you align yourself with men that called for the murder of others. How can you find one when you are in bed with the other? There is no self justification in anything I said only the light of the truth that many want to remain hidden. |
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