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1 | Marriage is ...? | 1 Cor 6:16 | Thomas8 | 196780 | ||
I've searched some of the marriage equals sex comments and do not find a satisfactory definition of marriage. From the following verses there is no ceremony or certificate. How would you define 'one flesh?' Then you have the issue of 1 Cor. 6:16 - the person joined to a harlot is one flesh. Gen. 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. Mar 10:8 And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh. 1Co 6:16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to a harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh. Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. Mat 19:6 KJVR Also, Gen 29:16-28 there is the union of Jacob AND Leah AND Rachel where you have a man uniting with a woman and not even recognizing her. Was he married to Leah? It certainly seems so. I'm really looking for verses and not just a cultural... this is the way we do it today. I received a good answer at Mt. 19:5 but am looking at Jacob's situation and the 1 Co. 6:16 issue. |
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2 | Marriage is ...? | 1 Cor 6:16 | DocTrinsograce | 196788 | ||
Hi, Thomas... I'm not entirely certain you can talk about marriage without talking about cultural norms. Perhaps that is even at the root of your confusion, since the Bible generally deals with marriage within a given cultural context. Nevertheless, I would commend you, for example, to the Westminster Confession of Faith, Chapter 26, which gives some Biblically based definitions. In addition, you might find John MacArthur's discussion of the topic (in the context of the first epistle to the Corinthians) here: http://www.biblebb.com/files/MAC/1829.htm I dredged out of my own notes the following, which may or may not be useful to you. Marriage is to be: Permanent (Deuteronomy 24:1-4; Mal 2:14; Luke 16:18; 1 Corinthians 7:1-16, 39) Partnering (Genesis 2:20; Proverbs 1:8-9; 6:20-21; 10:1; 15:20, 19:26, 20:20, 23:22, 25) Personal/Intimate (Proverbs 2:16-17; 16:28) Passionate (Proverbs 5:18-19) Profitable (Proverbs 12:4; 18:22; 19:14) In Him, Doc |
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3 | Marriage is ...? | 1 Cor 6:16 | lionheart | 196805 | ||
Hey Doc, One area where we all cause ouselves problems at one time or another is that we will approach the Bible from a western mindset which doesn't always work if at all. We forget that the bible came out of an eastern culture. That doesn't need to complicate matters it means that it's something to consider as we study out God's Word. In Him, lionheart |
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4 | Marriage is ...? | 1 Cor 6:16 | DocTrinsograce | 196807 | ||
Hi, Lionheart... Yes, that is an important component of the grammatico-historical approach to Biblical interpretation (see post #156918). In Thomas' case he is dealing with a practice that is implemented differently from various periods of history and cultures. In Him, Doc |
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5 | Original meaning/event of marriage | 1 Cor 6:16 | Thomas8 | 196834 | ||
Hi Doc, I'm very grateful for the reply. Thank you. What was the original meaning of marriage before the overlays? What event created a marriage? I understand things have changed. He said to them, "Because of your hardness of heart Moses permitted you to divorce your wives; but *from the beginning* it has not been this way. (Mat 19:8 NASB) |
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6 | Original meaning/event of marriage | 1 Cor 6:16 | DocTrinsograce | 196858 | ||
Dear Thomas, You asked, "What event created a marriage?" The universal consensus of Christendom is that God Himself invented the concept of marriage, which thing we read about in Genesis 2:18-24. Furthermore, we can be pretty certain that that is what Moses understood as he penned Genesis. You used the word "overlays" and asserted "I understand things have changed." That isn't precisely what I meant. Pray for me, as I try to make my meaning clear. :-) Now, I understand your desire to dig down to the fundamental definition of marriage. I can sympathize and empathize -- I've been there! However, based on my being able to identify with you and on my own experience, I can say pretty certainly that you've got things turned around. You see, we are products of our Western culture and the times in which we live. We tend to think of the views and discussions of others as clouding the real truth. We want to clear away the fluff. As believers, we've learned that there are more opinions out there than there are people! They question everything. We've learned to filter out all the hubbub and do the research ourselves. The problem we run into, though, is where to draw the line as we filter. You see, if we aren't careful, we'll throw the baby out with the bathwater. The Scriptures are God's progressive revelation. He didn't give us the Word all at once. The light available to Moses in Genesis was much less than the light available to John in Revelation. Nevertheless, we believe in the verbal plenary inspiration of Scripture. What that means is that every word that Moses wrote is just as much the Word of God as every word that John wrote. For example, we've actually had people come on the forum who thought the red letters in their Bible were more precious than the black ones. What a hermeneutic mistake! They are all equally precious, equally authoritative, equally sure, equally holy, etc. The Holy Spirit was behind every single word! While it is true that the Old Testament was written before the New Testament, and that there is some value in reading it chronologically, that really isn't the way to build up the whole picture. You see, the New Testament provides light by which we are able to understand the Old Testament. Consequently, when Christ comments, for example, on Genesis 2, He isn't overlaying the original, He is exposing its truth. The same applies to Paul. Don't be afraid that they are applying some kind of cultural bias. The Holy Spirit spoke within the context of history, fully utilizing the cultural context. Therefore, I suggest that you draw together all that the word has to say on marriage -- and, indeed, on any given topic that the Bible addresses. In Him, Doc |
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7 | Original meaning/event of marriage | 1 Cor 6:16 | Morant61 | 196862 | ||
Well said Doc! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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8 | Original meaning/event of marriage | 1 Cor 6:16 | DocTrinsograce | 196869 | ||
Thank you for the encouragement, Tim. | ||||||