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1 | Order of Worship | 1 Cor 14:26 | Wayne12345 | 150825 | ||
I was told when I took the YWAM course that there are references in the Bible to the way a Worship service is to be conducted. Like the type and order the music is used and the prayer and the teaching etc. Where in the Bible does it state it. | ||||||
2 | Order of Worship | 1 Cor 14:26 | littlebluetruck | 150826 | ||
Wayne, Yes, the Bible does specify how a worship service is to be conducted, and the funny thing is that most congregations don't even come close! In 1 Corinthians 14, Paul lays out a pattern for "when the whole church comes together into one place." (v. 23) Read the chapter carefully for yourself, but basically Paul instructs to the Corinthians to have an open, interactive time of singing, praying, sharing, speaking in tongues, etc. (see v. 26a) All of this activity must be aimed towards the edification of the body. (v. 26b) The chapter has no specific instruction about the type/order of music however. The goal is to be spirit-led. You won't even find sermons in the NT, besides evangelistic speeches and Paul's speech in the upper room at Troas. The design is for the church to function together AS A BODY, each part contributing to the building up of the whole. |
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3 | Order of Worship | 1 Cor 14:26 | BradK | 150840 | ||
Hi littlebluetruck, I agree in general with your statement regarding how worship services are conducted. Out of curiosity, have you visited a large number of congregations? I guess I'm asking, what leads you to conclude so difinitively that "most congregations don't even come close!" "You won't even find sermons in the NT..." I hope you're not suggesting that sermons are not to be given or that the Word should not be taught? Paul tells us most pointedly in 2 Tim. 4:2 to "Preach the Word!" Certainly, 1 Tim. 4:13, 2 Tim. 2:2, 4:3 and Tit. 1:9 indicate teaching of doctrine is important. Just clarifying to make sure I headr and understood you correctly:-) Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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4 | Order of Worship | 1 Cor 14:26 | littlebluetruck | 150850 | ||
Hi Brad I'll answer your questions one at a time in the order you asked them. In saying that most congregations don't come close, I'm observing that the present institutional structure does not seem to follow the Biblical pattern. There is precious little interactivity in a typical Sunday morning "worship service." And with a predetermined order of worship, you vastly limit the Spirit's ability to guide the meeting. Christ is the head of the church. (Col 1:18) This truth should be reflected in how we go about our meetings. To clarify where I'm coming from, I'll tell you a little about what we do. Our family is involved in a house church with several other families. On a typical Sunday there will be 50 people or so at someone's home. The relatively small size and closeness of the group allows us to enjoy 1) a meal and 2) an open, interactive time of worship, teaching and prayer. We feel that this is closer to the Bibilical pattern. Concerning sermons.... I am indeed suggesting that sermons are not to be given, at least not in the context of a Sunday morning church gathering. As I said before, you will find that the sermons mentioned in the NT are evangelically inspired, i.e., they are directed "outside" to the lost. There really is no place on Sunday morning, among the saints, for someone to dominate the time to that extent. Another confusion in the church today is that many are going out of their way to bring in the unsaved using the Sunday morning service. I'm all for bringing in the unsaved, but Biblically speaking, this time when the church is together is to be reserved for the edification of the body. The simple gospel message is powerful, but we must go deeper. Paul presents the idea of an unsaved individual coming to the gathering as the exception. (1 Cor 14:23-24 / "If... there comes in one who is unlearned..." Now, to balance out my previous paragraph, let me make clear that teaching and doctrine are indeed vital for the church. The word needs to be taught. But we can't confuse teaching and doctrine with the form by which it comes. It doesn't have to be a sermon to be teaching. It doesn't have to be a monologue to be doctrine. Our time of teaching and worship will last 3-5 hours, with 3-4 of the men bringing 15 minute (avg) insights from the scriptures. More often than not, these insights from the various brothers tie together in a beautiful way, providing a vivid and powerful teaching for the day. Preaching the word is important, but, as in everything else, our minds must be transformed as to what that looks like. (Rom 12:2) Just to light another fuse, I'll add that we have no pastor. :) Thanks for your questions; this is a great discussion. I hope this note has clarified a few things. Let brotherly love continue! Aaron |
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5 | Order of Worship | 1 Cor 14:26 | DocTrinsograce | 150875 | ||
Hi, LittleBlue... You might be interested in looking at the Plymouth Brethren. What you describe sounds a bit like them. (We have at least one active forum member from that particular group.) Pastors and teachers are provided for the edification of the body, not evangelism (see Ephesians 4). Even the world recognizes that there is a time for lecture, a time for dialog, and a time for personal study. Your statement that "the present institutional structure does not seem to follow the Biblical pattern" is pretty sweeping. I'd commend you to the Westminster Regulative Principle, the Heidelberg Order of Worship, the Strassburg Liturgy, and others. All of these liturgical studies are very strongly rooted in Scripture. In Him, Doc "Remember the perfections of that God Whom you worship, that He is a Spirit, and therefore to be worshipped in spirit and truth; and that He is most great and terrible, and therefore to be worshipped with seriousness and reverence, and not to be dallied with, or served with toys or lifeless lip-service; and that He is most holy, pure, and jealous, and therefore to be purely worshipped; and that He is still present with you, and all things are naked and open to Him with Whom we have to do. The knowledge of God, and the remembrance of His all-seeing presence, are the most powerful means against hypocrisy." --Richard Baxter "Let us remember therefore this lesson: That to worship our God sincerely we must evermore begin by hearkening to His voice, and by giving ear to what He commands us. For if every man goes after his own way, we shall wander. We may well run, but we shall never be a whit nearer to the right way, but rather farther away from it." --John Calvin |
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