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1 | Do we need to ask for "gifts" ? | 1 Cor 12:31 | Emmaus | 79638 | ||
I think it tells us God give differing gifts to people, but we should strive, desire and pray for the greater gifts, the theological virtues, of faith, hope and charity, and the greatest of these is charity or love. | ||||||
2 | Do we need to ask for "gifts" ? | 1 Cor 12:31 | gracefull | 79804 | ||
Hi Emmaus, "I think it tells us God give differing gifts to people, but we should strive, desire and pray for the greater gifts, the theological virtues, of faith, hope and charity, and the greatest of these is charity or love." Your statement that the greater gifts, the theological virtues, of faith, hope and charity, is not stated in either 1 Corinthians 12:31 1 Corinthians 13 (which is the description of Goly love) and is not verified by 1 Corinthians 14:1-2 Pursue love AND strive for the spiritual gifts, and especially that you may prophesy. 1 Corinthians chapters 11-14 is dealing with spiritual gifts listed in 1 Corinthians 12:8-10 Paul' teaching in Corinthians 13 on love is not that love should replace these gifts, but is necessary for their use. The 'greater gift' Paul states is prophesy. God bless. |
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3 | Do we need to ask for "gifts" ? | 1 Cor 12:31 | Emmaus | 79821 | ||
Graceful, I see your point, but as Paul states: "If there are prophecies they will be brought to nothing; if tongues they will cease; if knowledge it will be brought to nothing. For we know partially and we prophecy partially, but when perfection comes the partial will pass away...so faith hope and love remain, these three, but the greatest of these is love." Prophecies is a charismatic gift to serve a particular purpose, i.e. the building up of the Church. But faith hope and love are theological virtues and gifts by which we actually share in God's life for God is love, which is something more than a prophet. Prophecy is the greater of all the gifts which will pass away, but love never fails and will not pass away. Emmaus |
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4 | Do we need to ask for "gifts" ? | 1 Cor 12:31 | gracefull | 79837 | ||
Hi Emmaus, "If there are prophecies they will be brought to nothing; if tongues they will cease; if knowledge it will be brought to nothing. For we know partially and we prophecy partially, but when perfection comes the partial will pass away.. Verse 12 " For now we see in a mirror. dimly, but then we will see face to face. Now I know only in part; then I wil know fully, even as I have been known. And now faith, hope and love. Pursue love AND (my emphasis)strive for the spiritual gifts.... Absolutely nowhere in these chapters does Paul even imply that this was a temporal command. If we make this assumption here, we can make it anywhere in scripture. My challenge to anyone reading this post is to ask yourself why you so readily accept the teaching of man regarding these scriptures and do not open your heart to the truth being stated? Man developed the commentaries and I submit that man chose to deny the power of God still working in the earth for greed and/or fear! The gifts were not to be FEARED because they are the demonstration of God's Holy Spirit to a lost and dying world that God LOVES them and that Jesus died to set them free from the powers of darkness...Religion says 'Jesus died to free you from the condemnation of sin, but you must endure the enemy until you get to heaven." Scripture says that Jesus defeated all the powers of darkness and translated us into HIS kingdom. Is Satan still in authority over the KINGDOM OF GOD? NO, Jesus is the Lord over His kingdom in which we are IN! Colossians 1 "He has rescued us from the power (authority, jurisdiction, power, right, delegated influence, Strong's 1849 ) of darkness, and translated us into the kingdom of His Beloved Son.. Satan's authority in the life of the born again blood washed believer is GONE..So why does he still defeat so many of us? WE LET HIM by believing the lies taught by men! When that which is perfect has come is taught by ceasanist as meaning the compiling of the scriptures. But in context, and as emphasised by Paul, this can't be so. PERFECT has not come, and WE STILL SEE IN A MIRROR DIMLY... When Jesus returns, we will know all things and have perfect understanding. The gifts are for the building up of the body, and they are the work of the Holy Spirit through the working of the Holy Spirit in a yielded vessel. Yes, faith, hope and love are virtues and the Holy Spirit by the Word of God develops these in the believer, the charismata (gifts) are given for service to the body. The two are not in contrast to each other and they are not in competition....they are all part of God's covenant with His peole and should be sought, received with great joy to bring glory to God through Jesus Christ and demonstrate to a lost and dying world the provision of our awesome loving God. Jesus "led captivity captive and gave gifts to men.." Jesus took the AUTHORITY of Satan and and has given positions of authority to men and provided them with His NAME and His Spirit to go forth and preach that captivity has been broken and that they are redeemed from the law of sin and death! It always saddens me to hear the teachings of men that have been passed down and accepted that deny theworking of the Holy Spirit. The grief it causes is the same as if someone had medecine in their hands and someone was dying and the medecine would save them, but this person decided, no, the medecine will not work and refused to administer it. God has porvided the gifts of the Holy Spirit through the awesome sacrifice of Jesus and men reject it. All one has to do to know the truth is to go to God in prayer and sincerely desire to know the truth, and be willing to pay any price(religious afiliation, pride, family rejection) and God would fill them and gift them for service. Please do not mistake my PASSION for judgement or condemnation, quite the opposite, my passion if for truth to set the captive free..restore sight to the blind... God bless |
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