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1 | speaking in tongues 1cor.12:1coming | 1 Cor 12:13 | Songbirdca | 125211 | ||
It's ironic that Christians have argued so much about the baptism of the Spirit, when the apostle Paul used it as one of his main arguments to prove that we are all united in Christ! Some churches believe that the baptism of the Spirit is an experience different than initial salvation. They see it as a second experience that gives a person much greater spiritual power and boldness, and the ability to live a more victorious Christian life. Some groups teach that the baptism is accompanied by such signs as speaking in tongues. The Bible does not actually use the term "baptism of the Spirit" very often. John the Baptist predicted that Jesus would come and baptize with the Spirit and with fire (Matthew 3:11; Mark 1:8; Luke 3:16; John 1:33). In Acts 1:5, Jesus recalled John's words, and told His followers that they would be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from then. The spectacular events of the day of Pentecost ten days later seem to be the obvious fulfillment of His words (see Acts 2). The only other mention in Acts (11:16) refers back to Pentecost, explaining that Cornelius, the first Gentile convert, had an experience very similar to the Pentecost manifestations. While these passages make it clear that the believers in Acts 2 experienced a baptism of the Spirit, we do not find a clear explanation of what that baptism means. Nor do we know whether there were other works of the Spirit that were happening at the same time. The clearest explanation of the baptism appears in I Corinthians 12:13. Paul is dealing with a situation where the Corinthian church was splitting into factions over the issue of spiritual gifts. Overemphasis on certain spectacular gifts had led to the attitude that some people had the most desirable gifts, while others were deficient. In response, Paul exclaims, "We're all one! Don't divide up into cliques!" And to prove his point, he explains, "For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink of one Spirit" (I Corinthians 12:13). His main point? All believers share the reality of being baptized by the Spirit. What does it do? It makes us part of the body of Christ, the Church. When did it happen? If every believer has been baptized in the Spirit, then it happens at the moment you accept Christ and become a Christian. We are all given gifts (baptized in the Spirit) when we become Christians. Many of our gifts differ. They differ so that the body of Christ can be built up. I myself have gifts of discernment, helps, service and administration. The gift of tongues as you will notice when reading 1 Cor. 12, another one of those gifts. It is an excellent chapter on what gifts God gave to his people. Tongues has been vastly distorted by some churches today, to mean something it isn't. It has given some people the impression that they are better then other Christians. When in actual fact, tongues were used at Pentecost as a sign to those many "nations" that were in Jerusalem at that time. Each indivual heard the gospel in their own tongue. Unfortunately, some churches today, think that speaking in tongues is a sign that you are a Christian. It is not. They forget the reason why the gift was given in the first place and end up confusing people. It would be ridiculous for everyone to have the gift of tongues, because then the body of Christ would not grow. We are given gifts to help each other. Therefore, tongues is not a sign that a person does not have the Holy Spirit. Tongues is just another gift. |
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2 | speaking in tongues 1cor.12:1coming | 1 Cor 12:13 | prayon | 125283 | ||
Greetings Songbird, I agree with some of what you say but there are a couple things that were not accurate. The first is when you said "If every believer has been baptized in the Spirit, then it happens at the moment you accept Christ and become a Christian." Actually it does not. Acts 8:14-17 contradicts this. Notice verse 16 in particular "Before this the Holy Spirit had not come to any of the Samaritans. They had only been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus." Therefore the baptism of the Holy Ghost does not come automatically when being born again. You also said that tongues is not for every believer. It is a gift to all. Acts tells of 5 instances that tongues were the evidence of the Holy Spirit's indwelling (see Acts 2,8,9,10, and 19), all who were baptized had the evidence of speaking in tongues except for one instance and it was alluded to. Tongues is for all Christians who meet the 5 conditions - Salvation, obedience, faith, asking, and yielding (please see my answer to MrOteng for scriptures and explanations). Mark 16:17 clearly states that those who are believers will speak in new languages "These are the miraculous signs that will accompany believers: They will use the power and authority of my name to force demons out of people. They will speak new languages." He does not say some of the believers he says ALL of the believers. Again in Acts 2:4 it says all believers "All the believers were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other languages as the Spirit gave them the ability to speak". Acts 2:38-39 again says all believers " Peter answered them, "All of you must turn to God and change the way you think and act, and each of you must be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ so that your sins will be forgiven. Then you will receive the Holy Spirit as a gift. There are 2 sides to tongues the public side and the private side. This is where the confusion lies. The private side of tongues is what was given in Acts 2,8,9,10 and 19. The private side of tongues is a devotional gift where you speak to God and edify yourself. Public tongues is a ministry gift of the Holy Spirit where you speak for God and edify the church. This gift is not given to everyone. Hope this clears up some stuff. prayon |
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3 | speaking in tongues 1cor.12:1coming | 1 Cor 12:13 | kalos | 125287 | ||
Romans 8:9 (ESV) You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him. NASB 1 Corinthians 12:13 For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink of one Spirit. AMPLIFIED 1 Corinthians 12:13 For by [means of the personal agency of] one [Holy] Spirit we were all, whether Jews or Greeks, slaves or free, baptized [and by baptism united together] into one body, and all made to drink of one [Holy] Spirit. 1 Cor. 12:4-11 (ESV) Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit; [5] and there are varieties of service, but the same Lord; [6] and there are varieties of activities, but it is the same God who empowers them all in everyone. [7] To each is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good. [8] To one is given through the Spirit the utterance of wisdom, and to another the utterance of knowledge according to the same Spirit, [9] to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit, [10] to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another the ability to distinguish between spirits, to another various kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues. [11] All these are empowered by one and the same Spirit, who apportions to each one individually as he wills. 1 Cor. 12:29-30 (ESV) Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles? [30] Do all possess gifts of healing? Do all speak with tongues? Do all interpret? To each of the questions in 1 Cor. 12:29-20 the implied answer is "No." Note that verse 30 does not ask "Do all have the gift of tongues?" That is not what it says. What it says is: "Do all SPEAK with tongues"? The implied answer, consistent with the rest of the passage, is "No, all do not speak with tongues." 'Mark 16:9-20. The external evidence strongly suggests these verses were not originally part of Mark's gospel.' 'The internal evidence from this passage also weighs heavily against Mark's authorship... 'While for the most part summarizing truths taught elsewhere in Scripture, vv. 9-20 should always be compared with the rest of Scripture, and NO DOCTRINES SHOULD BE FORMULATED BASED SOLELY ON THEM.' (Emphasis added.) (The MacArthur Study Bible, 1997, Word Publishing). What is not in doubt is the inspiration and authority of Ephes. 5:18-21, which clearly tells us what the evidence of being filled with the Spirit is. It is speaking to yourselves in psalms, singing and making melody, giving thanks always, and submitting. Ephes. 5:18-21 (KJV) And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit; [19] Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord; [20] Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ; [21] Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God. Acts 2:4 does not say they were all BAPTIZED in or by the Holy Ghost (Spirit). What it says is they were FILLED with the Holy Ghost. FILLED not BAPTIZED! Acts 2:4 (KJV) And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. |
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