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1 | Holy Ghost Baptism subsequent to salvati | 1 Cor 12:13 | kalos | 4422 | ||
RevC: I don't believe anyone can show you in a sound theological and scriptural manner that the baptism of the Holy Spirit is subsequent to salvation. To answer your question, one must first define "baptism of the Holy Spirit." For a Biblical definition of the "baptism of the Holy Spirit", see 1 Cor 12:13, which tells us we were baptized (placed) into the one body (the body of Christ) by the Holy Spirit. When do we become a member of the body of Christ? At the moment of our salvation, when we are born again. There is no time gap between receiving salvation and being baptized into the one body, the body of Christ. Note that Acts 2:4 does not use the word "baptized." Instead it says "filled."Hope this helps answer the question. On the other hand it will be interesting to see if anyone argues in favor of a different view. --JVH0212 |
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2 | Holy Ghost Baptism subsequent to salvati | 1 Cor 12:13 | retxar | 4739 | ||
Hi JVH0212, just a quick note. I know your post here is a few days old, so sorry if I'm bringing up something someone has already brought to your attention. You are correct, Acts 2:4 does not use the word "baptized." However, was this not the baptism with the Holy Spirit as Jesus promised in Acts 1:5? Didn't Jesus also gave a description of the baptism with the Holy Spirit in Acts 1:8? Was Jesus talking about receiving the Holy Spirit and being baptized into the body of Christ at salvation as in 1 Cor 12:13? I think not, as the disciples had already received the Holy Spirit in John 20:22 as promised in John 14:17, but they had not been baptized/filled with the Holy Spirit. Thanks Jesus is Lord |
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3 | Holy Ghost Baptism subsequent to salvati | 1 Cor 12:13 | kalos | 4748 | ||
Retxar: Thank you for your reply. Good to hear from you. Let me begin by quoting previous replies of mine addressed to other people's similar questions, ones that I think will answer most of your questions. "Since the disciples did not actually receive the Holy Spirit until the day of Pentecost, some 40 days in the future (Acts 1:8; 2:1-3), this statement (John 20:22) must be understood as a pledge on Christ's part that the Holy Spirit would be coming." (p. 1627, MacArthur Study Bible, Word Publishing, 1997) ------------------------------------------------- What exactly happened at Pentecost?" "The disciples did not actually receive the Holy Spirit until the day of Pentecost." Acts 2:4 *filled with the Holy Spirit.* "In contrast to the baptism with the Spirit, which is the one-time act by which God places believers into His Body (1 Cor 12:13), the filling is a repeated reality of Spirit-controlled behavior that God commands believers to maintain. Peter and many others in Acts 2 were filled with the Spirit again (e.g., Acts 4:8,31; 6:5; 7:55) and so spoke boldly the Word of God. The fullness of the Spirit affects all areas of life, not just speaking boldy (compare Eph 5:19-33)" (p. 1635, MacArthur Study Bible, Word Publishing, 1997). -------------------------------------------------- INSERT A. Insert A follows in the next part of my answer. I ran out of space in this part. -------------------------------------------------- Retxar, in order to have your question fully answered by me, you will need to see also the following previous postings of mine. They include points not mentioned here that you need to read to know my complete answer. You can find them by going to Search. In the search fields leave the "Bible Book or Books" field blank. Under were submitted on or after Date, leave this field blank. Then under user, type: JVH0212. Under containing these words, type the words below (without the day, date, time information). Holy Ghost Baptism subsequent to salvati Wed 05/2/01, 1:26pm. When was the Holy Spirit first given? Sat 03/31/01, 12:26pm. what is baptized in the Holy Spirit Mon 04/2/01, 1:04pm. Again, sir, thank you for your question. Bless you. --JVH0212 |
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4 | Holy Ghost Baptism subsequent to salvati | 1 Cor 12:13 | retxar | 4764 | ||
Thanks JVH0212, I am printing out all the posting you referenced. I am pretty busy, so it may take me a day or two to get back to you. I will look at each one before I respond. You are very thorough, thank you. Jesus Lives! |
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