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1 | The question exists in Paul's Theology | Rom 9:18 | nwells | 138279 | ||
Actually Angel I am not having trouble accepting God as a loving God - you were not reading my question correctly - I see no problem in God hardening Pharaoh's heart - Pharaoh and everyone else in the world deserves to go to hell. Pharaoh will not be able to say in the end at judgment that God made him do it - for it was after all Pharaoh's greatest desire at the time to not follow God's command (but I say that God was the first causation and Pharaoh was the second - it was God who hardened Pharaoh to not follow His command and Pharaoh in responce to God's hardening desired to not follow God's command. Pharaoh was not outside the control of God but did exactly as God had him do - God is clean and is not the source of evil or sin but He hardens men in such a way to be sure of their damnation and yet men still bare full responcibility for their actions). My question is one of our view of how God has mercy and how God hardens people. You said: "it is our choice that free us or condemn us!" So I will ask you: Can a fallen man (meaning a sinner, before regeneration) do anything to please God? If he can - what can he do? Second, you said: "God has no need for us to perish (eternal damnation in Hell)" If God did not want people to go to hell, would anyone go to hell? Did the world turn out differently than God wanted it to? Meaning that sin entered the world and Christ was needed to redeem men? Would God do things differently if He created a second world? Or is everything as He wanted so that He would receive the most glory possible from his creation? Thanks for your time :) Oh one more thing - You said: "we, in good intent, fall out of our Faith.." This is one of the many reasons thinking that the choices men make are above God is dangerous - For if our faith, our choice to believe in Christ comes from us that means we can quit believing. But if our faith is a gift from God then, if we are truly His - no one and nothing will ever take us away from our beautiful Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. If He is the author and the finisher - where is man in that? He started and so He will complete what He has started in me - I will not fail, because He started and so will work in me to become more like Him until the day I see Him face to face. |
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2 | The question exists in Paul's Theology | Rom 9:18 | JCrichton | 138367 | ||
"God is clean and is not the source of evil or sin" Hi, nwells! Part 1 of 2 I totally agree with this part of your statement... and God did hardened the hearts of some in order to accomplish His Salvific Plan; yet, damnation was never part of God's Plan for any of those people... He closed their understanding so that He may have mercy on all: For God has bound all men over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all. (Romans 11:32) It is great that we understand that at a time God controlled certain people/individuals in order to fulfill His Plan; yet we must also understand that part of that Plan is to free all from the powers of sin: 18For Christ died for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive by the Spirit, 19through whom also he went and preached to the spirits in prison 20who disobeyed long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water, 6For this is the reason the gospel was preached even to those who are now dead, so that they might be judged according to men in regard to the body, but live according to God in regard to the spirit. (1 Peter 3:18-20, 1 Peter 4:6) It is through God's Mercy that both peoples are made one, and it is through God's power that those once dead were preached to by Christ Jesus, in the Spirit, so that all may be afforded that same Grace: believing in Jesus Christ! (John 11:25-26; Luke 20:38; John 5:21, 25) "Can a fallen man (meaning a sinner, before regeneration) do anything to please God?" Paul tells us that the those who are in the flesh cannot please God (Romans 8:8)... so it goes without argument that those who are not in Jesus cannot please God! The same applies for those who claim to know/have Jesus yet still walk in the flesh and not in the Spirit! |
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