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1 | Who are the just? What is Faith? | Rom 3:26 | C.S.M. | 157071 | ||
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2 | Who are the just? What is Faith? | Rom 3:26 | BradK | 157072 | ||
Hi CSM, Who are the just can be answered,in part by Rom. 3:26 "for the demonstration, I say, of His righteousness at the present time, so that He would be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus." Further, Rom. 5:1 tells us that the believer is, "Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ," Heb 11:1 answers the question, "What is faith?" "Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen." I hope this helps, BradK |
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3 | Who are the just? What is Faith? | Rom 3:26 | C.S.M. | 157084 | ||
Hi BradK, Ro 3:26 is talking about God. Are you saying that the statement "the just shall live by faith" is talking of God? Don't you understand it to mean mankind? Ro 5:1 Says we are justified (freed) by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. God is grace, Jesus is Faith which produces peace. Heb 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Now Jesus is the substance of things hope for, and Jesus is the evidence of things not seen. We are to Look unto Jesus the author (margin says; beginner) and finisher (completer) of our faith; Heb 12:2 To believe is to obey according to James 1:22 The real definition of faith is Heb 11:6 But without faith (Jesus) it is impossible to please (God): for he that comes to God MUST believe (1) that he is (or God exists), and (2)that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Prov 13:13 Whoso despises the word shall be destroyed: but he that fears the commanment shall be rewarded. God's word is tied to rewards. Our diligence in taking God at his word, which is his faith, his word, that becomes our faith, will be rewarded richly. Always in Christ, C.S.M. |
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4 | Who are the just? What is Faith? | Rom 3:26 | BradK | 157086 | ||
Hi CSM, Yes, you are correct that Rom. 3:26 is referring to God. The point I was making is that we are now just (justified) before God on the basis of faith because of Christs' all sufficiency! C.H. Spurgeon preaching on Rom. 5:1 said this: "“Being justified.” The text tells us that every believing man is at the present moment perfectly justified before God. You know what Adam was in naked innocence in Paradise. Such is every believer. Ay, and more than that. Adam could talk with God because he was pure from sin, and we also have access with boldness unto God our Father because, through Jesus’ blood, we are clean. Now, I do not say that this is the privilege of a few eminent saints, but here I look around these pews and see my brethren and sisters scores and hundreds of them — all of whom are to-night just before God — perfectly so; completely so; so just that they never can be otherwise than just; so just that even in heaven they will be no more acceptable to God than they are here tonight. That is the state into which faith brings a poor, lost, guilty, helpless, good-for-nothing sinner. The man may have been everything that was bad before he believed in Jesus, but as soon as he trusted Christ, the merits of Christ became his merits, and he stands before God as though he were perfect, “without spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing,” through the righteousness of Christ. Note, however, as we have noticed the state of justification, the means whereby we reach it. “Being justified by faith.” The way of reaching this state of justification is not by tears, nor prayers, nor humblings, nor working, nor Bible-reading, nor church-going, nor chapel-going, nor sacraments, nor priestly absolution, but by faith, which faith is a simple and utter dependence and believing in the faithfulness of God, a dependence upon the promise of God, because it is God’s promise, and is worthy of 86 dependence. It is a reliance with all our might upon what God has said. This is faith, and every man who possesses this faith is perfectly justified to-night." Out of curiosity, might I ask you on what basis you state, "God is grace, Jesus is Faith which produces peace?" I ask because I haven't seen that specific distinction in scripture nor have I heard it used before in such a manner:-) Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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5 | Who are the just? What is Faith? | Rom 3:26 | C.S.M. | 157099 | ||
Hi BradK, You asked: Out of curiosity, might I ask you on what basis you state, "God is grace, Jesus is Faith which produces peace?" I ask because I haven't seen that specific distinction in scripture nor have I heard it used before in such a manner:-) My reply is: For by Grace you are saved, through faith, and that not of yourself, it is the gift of God. Eph 2:8 Isn't it God, through Jesus, that saves any human being, and salvation is God's gift to mankind! John 3:16 For God so loved the world, he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on him shall not perish, but have everlasting life. Jesus is described as "faith" in Ro 9:30-33.. What shall we say then? That the Gentiles (those people who had no covenant with God( called the nations) as did the Jews)which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righeousness, even the righteousness which is OF faith. (31) But Israel (God's covenant people), which followed after the LAW of righteousness, have not attained to the LAW of righteousness. (32) why? Because they sought it not by FAITH, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that STUMBLINGSTONE; (33) as it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a STUMBLINGSTONE and ROCK OF OFFENCE; and whosoever believes on HIM (Jesus) shall not be ashamed (margin: confounded). This verse calls faith, that stumblingstone, and rock of offence, then gives this description of faith a gender, by calling faith "him", which we know to be Jesus I Peter 2:6-8 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believed on "HIM" shall not be confounded (Isa 28:16). (7) Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner, (8) and a stone of STUMBLING, and a ROCK OF OFFENCE, even to them which stumble at THE WORD being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed. Peter, Paul and Mary, all knew Jesus was faith. The knew Jesus is the "Living" Word..John 1:1-4 Another evidence? Heb 12:2 Look unto Jesus the author (margin: beginner) and finisher of our faith: I say Jesus is the source, the developer, and the finisher of mankinds faith. He doesn't just have faith, he is faith, the source of all faith from God the Father. The obvious then would be that God is the Source, the developer, and the finisher, of all that he wants to do in mankind, which is his Grace. He doesn't just have some grace, he is the source of grace! In the highest sense, without a source, mankind would have nothing. Without God, we are nothing. Without God nothing, as we know this earth, knowledge, wisdom, etc., would not exist. John 16:13-15..the Spirit of Truth (the Holy Ghost) has come...he is guiding into all the truth..he says what he hears form God the Father...he shows believers things to come...He glorifies Jesus..he receives everything from Jesus and shows it to us..Jesus then said, All things that the FATHER has is MINE: therefore I said, he (the Holy Spirit) shall take of mine (which are all things that belong to the Father God. Ask yourself, what and how much that is.), and shall show it unto you. (You who? Believers!) If you can't shout about that, your knower is turned off, and your wood is to wet to catch on fire for God! :) Jesus is the "express image of God", Heb 1:3, they think, speak and do exacly alike. "When you've seen the Father, you've seen me" John 14:9 So whatever God is, Jesus is, whatever God and Jesus is, the Holy Ghost is...I John 5:7..they are one...in Spirit and in truth John 4:24...the best part is that Jesus prayed to the Father..John 17:21 That THEY (all believers corporately and individually) may be one; (how? in thought, word and deed); as you Father, are in me, and I in you, that THEY (believers in Christ) also may be one in US (God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost), EVEN AS we are one....(23) and have loved them AS you have loved me. (How did God love Jesus? Completely! In thought, word and deed! We are to love each other in thought, word and deed.) God is grace, Jesus is Faith, The Holy Spirit is the power of God. Acts 1:8 Acts acrostic: A.ctive C.hristians T.errorizing S.atan. Glory to God!!! Jesus gave us "his" peace..John 14:27-31 Always in Chirst, C.S.M. |
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6 | Who are the just? What is Faith? | Rom 3:26 | BradK | 157104 | ||
Hi CSM, Just to clarify. I'm not completely following your logic here. 1. Are you saying that we could simply substitute the name "God" where we see grace used and the name "Jesus" where we see faith used and we'd be OK? In this case, Eph. 2:8 would read "for by God are we saved by Jesus..." (???) 2. I don't see that Jesus is being described as "faith" in Rom. 9:30-33. I think that a bit a "reading into the text" something that's not there. Its' focus is that of showing that Israel seeking righteousness by works! 3. Your approach seems a bit novel- no offense. You also appear to be bordering on Modalism by making the distinctions "God is grace, Jesus is Faith, The Holy Spirit is the power of God". If I've misunderstood you, my apology, if not might you provide some additional clarification:-) Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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7 | Who are the just? What is Faith? | Rom 3:26 | C.S.M. | 157119 | ||
BradK, 1. Is that not the actual process God uses? Is it not God that saves you through Christ? If God doesn't save you, through Christ's finished work on the cross, who did? Eph 2:8 2. Ro 9:30-33 Whose law was it? Why was it called the law of righteousness? Who had the law written? Was it Moses? Was it God? Is God the source of the law? Is it his standards? If not whose standards are they, and why if it is not God, is it called the law of righteousness? Isn't God the source of all righeousness? Then it continues to say righteousness is of faith. Where do you say that righteousness originated, with whom, for what purpose? Was there a plan, or pursuit? If so, of whom was it speaking? It continues to say Israel followed the law of righeousness, but did not attain to the law of righeousness, why was that, and who were they following? Whose law were they following called "the law of righteousness?" Isn't it called God's commandments? Isn't God righteous in your understanding? Isn't the law of righteousness speaking about the law of God himself? Is there a law without God that mankind is to adhere to? I do not find these issues to be novel, perhaps you do, and I take no offence? 3. Please define your meaning of Modalism since there are many levels of meanings. Again It is God Eph 1:7, states In whom (Christ) we have redemption (forgiveness) through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his (God's) grace; How do you read this passage, if not in the manner just stated? The verse itself tells us redemption is the forgiveness of sins, and if words mean anything you know of whom it is speaking? Are you saying God does not have Grace, faith or Love, and those things are not the character and nature of God? Jesus himself said Acts 1:8 you shall receive power AFTER the Holy Ghost comes upon you...isn't Jesus saying the Holy Spirit is the power source, since it doesn't come to pass until after the Holy Ghost comes upon a person? Doesn't words describe before and after, quanity and quality, source and supply, power or the lack thereof? You do not seem a stranger to words and their meaning, except when it comes to scripture. You know that words have more than one meaning in your natural life, and seem not to have any problem expressing the levels of difference without going over board. Yet with scripture you take it and it's like cement, thourghly mixed up and permanently set, all aschew? I definitely think there is total misunderstanding in this discussion. I once heard a description of Christian growth that makes sense. "Christian growth is like natural growth, when you are first born again, you are like a baby, needing care for food, clothes, shelter, totally helpless and somewhat like a baby bird that will open it's mouth and swallow anything that comes close to it. As that person begins to grow in the word of God, they pass through the stages of crawl, toddler, pre-school, kindergarden, adolensence, teen, young adult, adult, growing maturity. That fits what I have seen, and allows the difference of understandings to be without argument, harshness, superiority, or condescending. After all do we not expect different things from different levels of human growth. Aren't we more willing to supply a baby with what they need, even though they are wailing away. Yet if an adult is acting in that manner are we so tolerant? I'm not interested in arguing, it's a useless exercise. I am interested in learning more about my Lord and helping others to understand his love, grace and truth. Yes, you have misunderstood, and I hope this has clarified the issues. Always in Christ, C.S.M. |
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