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1 | old versus new testament | Rom 3:1 | Hennie | 206567 | ||
Why are churches today say to live in new testamony area rather than old testimony area | ||||||
2 | old versus new testament | Rom 3:1 | bowler | 206568 | ||
Hennie It is not clear from your question what verse or passage you are asking about? And your question is not as clear as it could be either? No offense to you, but it makes it harder to answer you when one has to try to figure out what you mean. The church did not start until Acts chapter 2, it did not exist while Jesus was among us, and it did not exist in the Old Testament either. That makes the second half of your question not work because there was no church in the Old Testament "era". There was Judaism in the OLd Testament "era", and it was only for Jews, and "aliens" who chose to convert to Judaism. The church when it started was composed of Jews, Gentiles, Samaritans, and Barbarians. Romans chapters 1 through 3, and 11 talks about the Jews and the Gentiles as both being members of the church as equal partakers of Christ. The Judaism of the Old Testament was only for the Jews. We are called the church, the "ecclesia" because because that is what Jesus told Peter He would build. Jesus tells Peter whose name means "little rock", that He Jesus, will build His church upon this "boulder", meaning Himself. The church is only the building of the body of believers in Jesus Christ, it is built on His body and blood, what He did at the cross. The promises given to the New Testament church are different than the promises given to the Old Testament Jews. The Old Testament Jews were promised a promise land, inheritance to the eternal throne of God in the form of a man, the Messiah to come save Israel from oppression, and the Son of God come to heal and to free the captives from bondage. The New Testament church is promised the removal of the eternal damnation for sins and eternal life with God, is promised a priest who intercedes eternally to remove sins, is promised a king to rule over the elect of God who are saved, is promised a prophet who fulfills all the requirements listed by Moses in Exodus chapter 18 to lead the people to God. The New Testament has better promises to us than the Old Testament did to the Jews. Why then, live according to the Old Testament? I similar question got asked by doclinda2, go to "primary", click on the question, scroll down to the bottom of the page and click on the branches down there. blessings abound, bowler |
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3 | old versus new testament | Rom 3:1 | DocTrinsograce | 206569 | ||
Hi, Bowler... God didn't change how people were saved between the OT and the NT. Indeed, there is only one way by which men can be saved: in Christ alone, by grace alone, through faith alone. You and I have the chronological advantage of knowing the particulars of Messiah (we even know His name!), whereas the OT saints were looking ahead (1 Peter 1:10-12). Indeed, Paul also makes this specific point clear in Romans 4:3-8, speaking of the particular case of Abraham. Without the cross, there is salvation for no one. In Him, Doc |
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4 | old versus new testament | Rom 3:1 | bowler | 206575 | ||
Doc, I agree completely with you, as I think my post points out the "promises" given to each group were different, not meaning of salvation, but of various parts of covenantal dispesning of God's will "about His promises to Israel of a promised land in which to literaly dwell, of salvation from literal oppression, of a king to rule on the eternal throne". What I did not mean to imply is that they were saved any other way than be faith alone. Sorry for the misunderstanding. By the way, I think I mistakenly answered the same question again, thining that "doclinda2" was the one who posted this one. Hennie asked the same question a second time and I addressed your point here from the same viewpoint that you and I both hold about the salvation part as being by "faith alone" for both groups. blessings abound, bowler |
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5 | old versus new testament | Rom 3:1 | DocTrinsograce | 206577 | ||
Hi, Bowler... Faith alone, is right... but always append the further qualifiers: in Christ alone, by grace alone, through faith alone. Nowadays, folks need the explicit solas. So much ignorance and heterodoxy out there. Of course, there's nothing new under the sun: http://www.creeds.net/ancient/orange.htm In Him, Doc |
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6 | old versus new testament | Rom 3:1 | bowler | 206579 | ||
Doc Excellent point there, really Excellent! Point well taken, thank you once again. I will be checking out those links. This has made me come up with a question, but I am going to take my time and try to phrase it in simple terms for all to discuss (I hope). blessings abound, bowler |
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