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NASB | Romans 3:1 Then what advantage has the Jew? Or what is the benefit of circumcision? |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 3:1 Then what is the advantage of the Jew? Or what is the benefit of circumcision? |
Subject: old versus new testament |
Bible Note: Doc Yes I do understand that the term "catholic" means universal, as in the "universal church" and that that is how it was being used in the Canons of Orange. However, the Canons of Orange were drafted by members of the Catholic Church in 529 with Caesaurius Arles, presding as head of the synod, and sent to Pope Boniface II for final approval. Which is why I did not hesitate to idenditify the end paragraph, which intimated that regeneration comes about by way of baptism, as being derived from "Roman Catholicism", as the Council of Orange sent the Canons to Pope Boniface II in 530 for final approval. The whole thing stemmed from St. Augustine's answer to Pelagianism. Augustine was Catholic, the members of the Council of Orange were all Catholic. Both Augustine and the church at the time taught baptismal regeneration as the process by which any came to be those "who are actually regenerate". Some of the oldest divines believed various things, both John Calvin and Martin Luther believed in baptismal regeneration "as the process by which that effectual grace of regeneration is conferred". But in the interests of not aruguing with you I will desist from setting forth a lengthy discourse with quotes to prove that and will leave off in qualifying my statement that that is what they taught and believed. I like your London Baptist Confession of Faith, thank you very much for all your very good links. And I have no doubt that other of the great divines did not teach baptismal regeneration as you so rightly say. blessings abound, bowler |