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1 | Obey your leaders ? | Acts 5:29 | grafted in | 216669 | ||
Greetings Vintage, No, it doesn't bother me. I did not bring out scripture references as I was talking in terms of the culture back then, before, during and after Jesus' life. The kings came to be by birth or appointed by another king. The other politicals would have been appointed by the reigning king. The only way for folks back then to get rid of their king and heads of office would be by assasination and that certainly would not be a good thing for a Jew or a Christian to be a part of. And then they would have just gotten the next in line by birth (possibly even worse that the first). This is the way I understand the system, before and during Jesus' lifetime and for quite some time afterward. If I'm wrong and I put my foot in my mouth (I've done that before lol) - then accept my apology, please. What I said about today in response still stands - we put our leaders in office by majority vote, be it the police chief, the ADA, the president... and we have the right, nay, the obligation, to take them out of office if they are not what they pretended to be while running for office. And yes, I did the read the original question. I was mainly responding to the responder, Rolff. I may have misunderstood him but it seemed like he was talking like we today have no say in what our leaders decide to do once in office. If I overstepped the legalities of the forum here, please forgive. It was not my intention to start a political debate (I am rather politically unlearned anyway). :o) Have a good evening |
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2 | Obey your leaders ? | Acts 5:29 | Vintage68 | 216743 | ||
Hi grafted in Since the other day, having asked the question, I have come to the understanding that, it's not who is in the office, KING, PRESIDENT, DOG CATCHER. These categories cover the past, and the present. They also cover the highest, and what some might consider the lowest of offices. What it all comes down to, is the authority they have. We may not like the person in said office, we may not think the office is of any importance, but whatever this office might be, if this office has ANY Authority at all, then we should honor the office itself, by giving respect, and due benevolence to the person holding that office. The other part of the question, was about the leaders in the church. From what Rollf has said, and from further study, I have come to the same conclusion that the Heb 13:17 scripture Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you. These people have also been given authority, for the purpose of ruling, within the house of God, they "Must give account" for how they have watched over our souls. How far are we to allow any abuses go within the Church, before rebelling? Our only position then is to submit to the ruling power, whether to King, or to the rulers of the church. 1 pet.2:15 For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men: Whether the person obtains the position by birth rite, as a king might, or an appointment by said king, or through election by the people. They have all been put into that position by God for His purpose. For all authority belongs to God, He gives it to whom he wills. They all fall into the category spoken of in Rom 13:1 Vintage68 |
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