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1 | Water baptism unnecessary for conversion | Acts 2:38 | arrow1 | 113938 | ||
I've always disliked that word denomination. I grew up in a small town, in a Lutheran church, my grandfather was even a minister in another town nearby. After moving to Des Moines, IA. I attended a small nondenominational church. A few years later attended an Assembly of God church where I came forward at an "altar call", a couple of years later began attending an Evangelical Free church where I was baptized by immersion in front of 450 members on a Sunday morning. A couple of years later(being single one gets restless) attended a large Baptist church. A couple years later began attending an International Church of Christ where I was taught "baptism for the forgiveness of sins", and a few years later brings us to the present where I'm back at the Evangelical Free Church on Sundays and on Thursday evenings attend a rather large, rapidly growing, very evangelical Lutheran church. The Thursday service is for singles only(typically draws 300 plus)and has full communion with real bread and "real" wine. During all that I have visited Catholic, Christian Science, Traditional Church of Christ, been to a Benny Hinn crusade, and even studied with Mormons(they will never convert). As you can see I have alot of religious experience so I have a very different perspective on the Bible. One of the most interesting experiences was attending a seminar "Why be Catholic" by Scott Hahn. He was a presbyterian seminarian who studied the Bible so extensively he converted to Catholicism. The most fascinating books of I've read are those by David Bercot, he seems to be an expert on the early church. I've found there is no perfect church. I'm puzzled why there is no mention of an age of accountability or infant baptism, or baptism of children and/or teenagers of Christian parents in the Bible. Baptism for the forgiveness of sins is so crystal clear to me, I'm not sure how people miss that one. It appears so many verses that mention baptism have to be picked apart, disected, third person plural pronouned to death in order to not conflict with "faith alone", a phrase which isn't even in the Bible. My biggest question on that(concerning baptism) is why wasn't any translation ever translated to say what it means in plain Ennglish, crystal clear, no interpretation necessary. I was hoping to hear back from morant61 on my post 113859, tues. 12:16 am. I thought I did a good job on that one. Also would love to find just one Christian writer from the very early church who held the faith alone view. Oh, to answer your question, Christian. |
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2 | Water baptism unnecessary for conversion | Acts 2:38 | Searcher56 | 114327 | ||
Since you attand ICOC where there is no musical instruments ... what do you think when you go to the EFree church and Lutheran ... as well as differences in doctrines? | ||||||
3 | Water baptism unnecessary for conversion | Acts 2:38 | arrow1 | 114339 | ||
You are incorrect. The ICOC does use musical instruments. There are many traditional churches of christ. Some use musical instruments, and there are also many that don't. That was one doctrine I never really agreed with. It seems like one of those minor disputable matters which Christians could agree to disagree on. It is a bit of a connundrum, Efree has infant dedication and Luth. baptizes infants, neither of which has scriptural examples. The two I attend happen to be the two fastest growing churches in Des Moines right now. 1)Catholics adhere to baptismal regeneration 2)Evangelicals have the sinners prayer and faith alone 3)and then there is adult repentance and baptism into Christ. To me those are three distintly different doctrines. It's hard to believe that they are all correct at the same time. If you pick one, it seems you're condemning the others all to hell. That makes hell pretty crowded. I have personal friends in all three camps. They are all equally dedicated to and in love with the Lord. I admit I do struggle with that. Maybe I'm still searching a little myself. sincerely, arrow1 |
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4 | Water baptism unnecessary for conversion | Acts 2:38 | Emmaus | 114359 | ||
arrow1. "1)Catholics adhere to baptismal regeneration 2)Evangelicals have the sinners prayer and faith alone 3)and then there is adult repentance and baptism into Christ." Actually Catholics believe in all of the above except "faith alone." We have lots of sinners prayers, adult repentence and baptism. The reason we believe in baptismal regeneration is because we believe we are baptized into Christ who "renews all things." Emmaus |
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