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1 | Water baptism unnecessary for conversion | Acts 2:38 | CDBJ | 113770 | ||
You said, “Yes, you receive the Spirit and are saved during baptism in water”. My Bible says, “That there is a specific order for salvation, first the gospel, with no mention of water, then believing in that gospel, no mention of water, then we are sealed with the Spirit, still no mention of water. Why, according to what my Bible says that means I could be saved anyplace in this universe just so long as I had the ability to think and make a decision to believe the gospel about Jesus! Even in the middle of a desert while dying of thrust with no water around. I guess the gospel is good news, as long as I don’t add stuff to it and make it a different gospel. This is how My Bible reads, Ephes. 1:12-13 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. 13In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, I would suppose that your translation reads as follows from what you are telling me. Ephes. 1:12-13 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first were water baptized in Christ. 13In that ye also trusted, after that ye were water baptized for your salvation: in that water also after that ye were dunked, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, I don’t think so!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Galatians 1:6-9 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. The real baptisms are dry, of which there are only two, the wet baptism is only a ritual, don’t pervert the gospel by making water baptism a part of God’s salvation plan. Anything that man can do besides thinking and believing in the finished work of God for salvation abrogates the plan of God for that person! God only will receive praise for mans salvation package. Man is only asked by God to think. Isaiah 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool. Friend, if you are truly saved and with that kind of biblical distortion on water baptism, you are saved in spite of water baptism not because of it! Have a nice day, CDBJ |
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2 | Water baptism unnecessary for conversion | Acts 2:38 | arrow1 | 114270 | ||
1)If baptism isn't part of the full gospel message, than what is it part of, and where in scripture is its specific purpose and function and meaning explained? 2) Study the book of Acts and the conversion experiences closely. In "every" conversion experience, they all had the exact same response upon hearing the gospel message. If they all had the same immediate response, what "must" have they all just been told to evoke such a response. Really, think about that for a minute. In each and every case, they were all baptized "immediately". Now, if you witnessed and shared your faith with someone, would they have the same response the new converts in the book of Acts did. I submit they would not, because they would here a slightly different story than did they converts in the specific examples in Acts. Now, why is that? thanks, arrow1 |
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