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1 | Water baptism unnecessary for conversion | Acts 2:38 | arrow1 | 113456 | ||
How is it you so twist this verse. Clearly it is saying Baptism now saves you, (not the removal of dirt, because baptism is a spiritual act, not a physical act, refer to Col. 2:12 in baptism you are spiritually circumcised by Christ), And again it repeats "it saves you by the resurrection of Christ. | ||||||
2 | Water baptism unnecessary for conversion | Acts 2:38 | Searcher56 | 113479 | ||
Scripture ... Heb 11:7, 1 Pe 3:18-22, 2 Pet 2:5; 3:6 ... The key word is the Greek antitupon, "corresponding to that," NIV translates as "symbolizes," and the KJV as "like figure." 1 Peter 3:21 shows that baptism is a symbol of His death and His death does save us. Remember that Noah and family didn't get wet, those who died did. It was Noah's faith and obedience that saved him (Heb 11:7). Peter refers to the flood waters as the means of destruction of the ungodly (2 Pet 2:5; 3:6) What like is the figure? The ark in (vs 20). The water didn't save Noah's 8, nor did it remove of dirt from the flesh, unless they were outside while it was rain. Could it be that "corresponding to that" (vs 21) refers back to "safely" (vs 20)? For more read 113478 |
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3 | Water baptism unnecessary for conversion | Acts 2:38 | arrow1 | 113482 | ||
I found it interesting you said Noah's faith and "obedience" saved him. I thought we were saved by faith alone. Anyhow, main point: Baptism isn't symbolic of the flood, the flood and what happened to Noah symbolizes baptism. It says they were "saved through water" and this water symblizes baptism "that now saves you also". What can be more clear when it says baptism now saves you? It goes on to explain that baptism is not a physical act(not the removal of dirt) because baptism is a spiritual act(Col. 2:12)you are spiritually circumcised by Christ during baptism. It(baptism) is a pledge to God. And it goes on to say it(baptism) saves you by the resurrection of Christ. Yes, without the resurrection you would be just getting wet. Of course baptism 'is' symbolic, death, burial, resurrection and going down under and coming up out the water a new creature in Christ. But it so clearly says "it" saves you and "it" is a pledge to God, and "it" is effective precisely because of the resurrection. Saved by Grace through Faith at Baptism, it's so simple. |
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4 | arrow1, Did you read post 113478? | Acts 2:38 | Searcher56 | 113484 | ||
If Noah just had faith and didn't obey God to build and go into the ark - he would have died with the rest of the world. Did you read 113478? |
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5 | arrow1, Did you read post 113478? | Acts 2:38 | bible student 5000 | 113742 | ||
as you might see in genesis 6 v14 god commanded Noah to bild an ark and told him how if he did not bild it then he would not be showing faith and going against what god said like the rest of the peopl that lived in that day so no he wouldnt be saved | ||||||