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1 | Water baptism unnecessary for conversion | Acts 2:38 | arrow1 | 113455 | ||
Saul was instructed by the Lord to go to straight street where a man named Ananias would tell him "what he must do". Yes, saul spent 3 days and 3 nights fasting and praying. Then he met Annanias who put his hands on him and said receive your sight. Then Saul was told "what are you waiting for, be baptized and WASH YOUR SINS AWAY". If he was previously saved, why did he still need to have his sins washed away??? |
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2 | Water baptism unnecessary for conversion | Acts 2:38 | Searcher56 | 113495 | ||
Scripture ... Act 22:7-16; 1Co 15:8-9, 6:11; Rom 10:13 ... "Now why do you delay? Get up and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on His name" (Acts 22:16 NAS) Paul is being given two commands ... three if you count "arise". They are separate and distinct commands. There is no way "be baptized" be the means by which the washing away is to be done. If this was the meaning, the commands would have to be reversed. Or, it would need to read, "wash away your sins by being baptized." The grammar and word order of the sentence doesn't even come close to allow this. Baptized is the middle voice of the verb baptizo ... and could mean "dip yourself" or "get yourself baptized". This means there isn't another human who was going to baptize Paul. The word "wash away" is used one other time (1Co 6:11). It is also in the middle voice. It makes better since to say wash(ed) in both places. The next phrase is, "calling on the name of the Lord." The word "calling" is in the second person, a present participle, once again is in the middle voice. Compare Acts 22:16 with Romans 10:13, we can see that it is the calling on the name of the Lord, with the washing of the Holy Spirit, that washes away my sins (Eph 1:12-13). Paul was saved and called upon him on the roadside to Damascus (Act 22:7-10, 1Co 15:8-9). Also read post 78221 |
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3 | Water baptism unnecessary for conversion | Acts 2:38 | arrow1 | 113745 | ||
You cannot say Saul was saved back on the road to Damascus during his encounter with Jesus, you said back on post 78221 that he was, even if we assume calling on the name is when he was saved, he was told to arise and have his sins washed away when he met Ananias, this happened much later. He was fasting and praying for 3 days, then he met Ananias, then he regained his sight, then he had the sins washed. If he was saved back in the encounter with Jesus, why was he later told to wash his sins away. Also, his baptism obviously took place within an hour of his arising and calling on the name of the Lord, so you are incorrect in the challenge you were offered. | ||||||
4 | Water baptism unnecessary for conversion | Acts 2:38 | Searcher56 | 113797 | ||
If washing Saul's sins was by baptism it would need to read, "wash away your sins by being baptized." The grammar and word order of the sentence doesn't even come close to allow this. Sual was saved on the road to Damascus: 1. Ananias called him "Brother Saul" (Acts 9:17, 22:13). 1 Corinthians 5:11 says that "brother" means "a believer" ... Saul was called a brother. 2. Saul called Jesus, Lord (Acts 9:6, 22:10) ... "No man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost" (1 Cor 12:3). 3. The Lord called Saul His chosen instrument (Acts 9:15) ... the reason Ananias called him brother. Now from an expert .... …be baptized…" (baptisai, 2 person, singular, aorist 1, imperative mood, and middle voice, Analytical Greek Lexicon, pg. 65). The second person is the usual posture of a verb when one is the recipient of what is being said. The aorist 1 and imperative mood indicate that Saul was commanded to be baptized. The middle voice is technical and hard to convey in English grammar. Ray Summer wrote thus regarding the middle voice: "This voice depicts the subject as participating in the action, either directly or indirectly, and yet the action is also upon the subject itself" (Essentials of New Testament Greek, pg. 48). The Holy Spirit appears to have used the middle voice in the case of Acts 22: 16 to show the activity of the one thus addressed; whereas, the Spirit simply supplied the passive voice (subject as acted upon) in the case of Acts 2: 38. Water baptism is something that is done to one; however, the person receiving the action is also active (middle voice of the verb). "…wash away thy sins…" (apolousai tas hamartias sou). Water baptism that is preceded by belief, repentance, and confession of Jesus' deity is "for the remission of sins" (eis aphesin ton hamarton humon, Acts 2: 38). The "wash away thy sins" is in keeping with baptism being a washing, spiritually speaking (I Cor. 6: 11). In I Corinthians 6: 11, Paul mentions a number of specific sins such as "fornicators," "homosexuality," and "drunkards" and then uses three words to describe their changed and forgiven condition: "washed," "sanctified," and "justified" (I Cor. 6: 9-11). These three words describe the same saved state. Just as sanctification and justification are essential to salvation, so also is baptism ("washed," cp. Heb. 12: 14; Rom. 5: 1). Again, this "washing" is not physical but it is the "answer of a good conscience toward God" (I Pet. 3: 21, the one thus baptized has a good conscience in that they have obeyed, cp. Heb. 5: 8, 9). Man often cannot understand the connection between wash away thy sins pertaining to water baptism and Jesus' blood being, "…shed for many for the remission of sins" (eis aphesin hmartion, Matt. 26: 28). Hence, they seek to find ways to deny the obvious teaching of Acts 22: 16. Others who have embraced the theology of "salvation by faith only" view baptism as a meritorious work, which would be condemned (Eph. 2: 8, 9). http://www.bibletruths.net/Archives/BTAR247.htm |
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