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1 | Water baptism unnecessary for conversion | Acts 2:38 | arrow1 | 113746 | ||
Yes, you receive the Spirit and are saved during baptism in water. Repentance and water baptism in his name are your response by faith to the gospel. God does all the work. By grace he forgives you and gives you the Holy Spirit. Water baptism is simply an act of faith whereby you are recieving something from God, not a work to earn something. Col. 2:12 explains in water baptism Christ is spiritually circumcising you. Roman 6:3 shows it is not a ritual but an actual participation in his death, burial and resurrection. | ||||||
2 | Water baptism unnecessary for conversion | Acts 2:38 | BradK | 113750 | ||
arrow1, Two questions: 1. What verse tells us that we are saved during baptism in water; 2. Upon what basis would you state that Col. 2:12 is indeed refering to water baptism? Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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3 | Water baptism unnecessary for conversion | Acts 2:38 | arrow1 | 113759 | ||
Eph. 4:5 states one baptism, it must be the baptism of the Great Commission for it is commanded of Christ and is administered by men. Holy Spirit baptism and speaking in tongues(pentecost and Cornelius for example) was a promise fullfilled, but not a command of Christ. Once water baptism is recognized as the "one baptism", now all the baptism verses begin to make sense. Baptized into Christ, buried in baptism, baptism now saves you also, be baptized and wash your sins away, etc. |
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4 | Water baptism unnecessary for conversion | Acts 2:38 | BradK | 113766 | ||
arrow1, "Must" is a mighty definite term to use in relation to Eph. 4:5. If that is the case, then you are advocating that one is saved by water baptism, correct? By negating that Spiritual Baptism is the baptism of Eph. 4:5, you leave only water. My friend, that is in serious opposition to the balance of scripture- particularly the Pauline Epistles- look at Titus 3:5! How would you understand 1 Cor. 12:13 in light of your words, "Once water baptism is recognized as the "one baptism", now all the baptism verses begin to make sense?" Does the Holy Spirit have any involvment in our salvation? Just curious. Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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5 | Water baptism unnecessary for conversion | Acts 2:38 | arrow1 | 113775 | ||
I would equate Titus 3:5 to John 3:5. Two elements, water and spirit, one birth. Water Baptism and "receiving" the Holy Spirit are two sides of the same coin, they are inseperable, (Acts 2:38). With your view, you have two distinct baptisms, in water and in holy spirit, which would seem to contradict Eph. 4:5. Don't confuse receiving the indwelling of the spirit and baptism in the spirit. Acts 8:14, they had accepted the word of God and had been baptized(water)in the name of the Lord Jesus. Surely those people in Samaria were saved Christians. Later the apostles went there, placed hands on them, and gave them some spiritual gifts(most likely the ability to speak in tongues) and then Simon, whom who note in verse 13 believed and was baptized, asked if he could buy the gifts he had seen them receive, (he probably heard them tongue speaking). Obviously my view is not that water in and of itself is some majical salvation agent. Saved by Grace through Faith at Baptism. God does all the "work" and the saving, I am simply responding to the gospel by repenting and being baptized in the Lord's name. It's all done as a one time act of faith, not a work of the law. Once saved I continue to work out my salvation with trembling and fear and stand firm to the end. I continue having faith. |
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