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1 | Can God save us the way HE WANTS TOO? | Acts 2:38 | Mommapbs | 50396 | ||
Greetings Grace and Truth: You stated, "Many on this forum don't believe that God could save through water baptism, but those in the bible believed." Please give a reference that supports "those in the Bible believed" As Jews, washing and cleansing were important aspects of their worship, but salvation was and always has been BY FAITH. God's law contains directions about washing (ie the priest washed themselves prior to ministering before the Lord) - I see this as a response to the recognition of their sinful condition and the need to be clean before they could begin to serve God. Based upon this I believe we could infer that the motive for the practice of baptism orginated from God's law. Perhaps Christ's baptism also is a signal that God approved of the people's RESPONSE to John the Baptist's call, to "repent!" He didn't call anyone to be "saved!" God credited the Old Testament saints with righteousness based upon their faith -(Romans 4:3, Gals 3:6; James 2:23) Salvation has always come BY FAITH ALONE - it is the gift of God. Baptism does not SAVE anyone, only God can save! And today, salvation is God's free gift based upon BELIEF in the finished work of Jesus Christ, His Son! Salvation is not the result of baptism or our BELIEF in baptism! Read Matthew 21:21-25. Jesus asked the same question about John's baptism, was it from heaven or from men. But notice what He was talking about just prior to this. FAITH! What do you suppose we should emphasize here? Mommapbs |
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2 | Can God save us the way HE WANTS TOO? | Acts 2:38 | Grace and Truth | 50403 | ||
I see that you still want to seperate Peter's answer to those who asked "what shall we do" My question was did Peter lie or did he tell them what the Lord said to those who believed? Where is it in the bible does it say were saved by FAITH ALONE! The book of James wouldn't agree with this statement, no where in the bible will you find such a statement. Again in Mark 16:15-16 DID JESUS TELL THE APOSTLES WHAT TO PREACH? OR did he not know what he was talking about? You equate baptism with the Law of Moses, or with something man thinks of himself, but what I'm talking about is WHAT JESUS SAID we must DO! Which is a direct ORDER FROM GOD John 12:48-50. Baptism is a mandate FROM GOD, man did not inclue it GOD did! It is the only way (into Christ) (into his DEATH) through FAITH! I notice you pick out verses in Romans and Galatians and you don't read to the end of those chapters, because if you did you would learn what the text is teaching, God spoke to Abraham Romans 4:20-25 He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving goly to God:(unbelief in what God said! what Jesus said IN Mark 16:16, what Peter told the people to do in Acts 2:38, vs. 21 And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform. Jesus promised salvation to those who believed and were baptized in Mark 16:16. If God promised salvation through faith, repentance,confession,baptism and living faithful; we shouldn't stagger at what he promised! In Galatians 3:6-29 teaches that they or we are not to depend on the Law of Moses, because it was just a school master vs.24 to bring us to Christ, vs 27 teaches us how we get (into Christ) by baptism through faith, we put him on! |
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