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1 | Omit or not?To raise up the Messiah? | Acts 2:30 | Ray | 143378 | ||
Hi Mommapbs, Here is how I see your Scripture references--for clarification and discussion: 1) John 14:17: Here the Spirit of truth, another Helper, is a Person who will be with you forever. It is difficult to understand a triune God, but He is actually speaking of Himself. 2) 1 Cor 3:16, "Do you not know that you are a temple of (God), and that the **Spirit of *God dwells in you?" 1 Cor 6:19, NKJ, "Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from (God), and you are not your own? 20 For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify **God in your body and in your spirit, which are *God's." 3) 1 Thess 4:8: 1 Thess 3:11, "Now may our God and Father Himself / and Jesus our Lord direct our way to you; 12 and may the (Lord) cause you to increase and abound in love for one another, and for all men, just as we also do for you;" 1 Thess 4:1, "...walk and please (God) (just as you actually do walk)..." 1 Thess 4:7, "For God/ has not called us for the purpose of impurity, but in sanctification. 8 Consequently, he who rejects this is not rejecting man but the God who gives **His holy spirit to you. 9 Now as to the love of the brethren, you have no need for anyone to write to you, for you yourselves are taught by (God) to love one another." 1 Cor 12:11, "But the same **Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually as (He) wills." 4) 2 Tim 1:14, "Guard, through the Holy Spirit who dwells in us, the treasure which has been entrusted to you." Here the Holy Spirit who dwells in us as believers gives us the treasure, the good deposit, the down payment, the pattern of sound words, the holy spirit. Ephesians 1:17, "that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of Him. 5) Col 1:27, "...which is **Christ in you, the hope of glory. 28 And we proclaim Him, admonishing every man and teaching every man will all wisdom, that we may present every man complete in (Christ). 29 And for this purpose also I labor, striving according to *His power which mightily works within me." Ephesians 1:18, "I pray that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened, so that you may know what is the hope of **His calling; what are the riches of the glory of His inheritance in the sainsts, 19 and what is the surpassing greatness of (His) power toward us who believe. These are in accordance with the working of the strength of *His might." The parentheses and stars are mine for comparisons. From the heart, Ray |
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2 | Omit or not?To raise up the Messiah? | Acts 2:30 | Mommapbs | 143415 | ||
Ray - I wonder why you choose not to capitalize "holy spirit" in 1 Thess 4:7 How can you separate spirit from Spirit - God's Spirit does not change as mine does not (spirit) yet God gives His Holy (or holy, see below) Spirit to me, to dwell in me as a promise of my future redemption! Another consideration ** - 1 Thess 4:7, "For God/ has not called us for the purpose of impurity, but in sanctification. 8 Consequently, he who rejects this is not rejecting man but the God who gives His **holy **Spirit to you. 9 Now as to the love of the brethren, you have no need for anyone to write to you, for you yourselves are taught by (God) to love one another." 2 Tim 1:14, "Guard, through the **holy Spirit who dwells in us, the treasure which has been entrusted to you." In both these verses the word holy is used as an adjective, yet we most often capitalize it when we refer to the Spirit of God - if we do this, then through out scripture should we capitalize all adjectives that preceede names of the Godhead? ie Gracious Father, Wise God, Merciful Lord, what about Savior? Blessings, mommapbs |
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3 | Omit or not?To raise up the Messiah? | Acts 2:30 | Ray | 143432 | ||
Hi Mommapbs, The verses that you are posting here are not verses that I compared with each other. The word "gives" in 1 Thess suggests that God is giving His gift of holy spirit. The Holy Spirit of 2 Timothy 1:14 is He who is able to guard what was entrusted to Him (see verse 12). I would not compare them because one speaks of gift of holy spirit and the other of the Holy Spirit Himself. Now, if I follow your suggestion of a "holy Spirit" for 2 Tim 1:14 then the comparison with Ephesians 1:17 would not be the same. I failed to give you any comparison words, sorry. But I would compare "Holy"/ with "may give to you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of Him./" Continuing on with the comparison of 2 Tim and Ephesians we would have the "treasure" and the "riches". 1) When speaking of the Person of the Holy Spirit, I believe that we should consistently capitalize the Holy. I am not saying that your suggestion of "holy Spirit" was not discussed through the ages. John 7:39 and the variance of manuscripts for that verse could be an example of such a discussion. 2) For an exercise in considering Gracious Father or "Holy Father" or "Righteous Father" you might look at John 17 and the conversation I had with Makarios and others years back. I hope this is all helping you. I do not want to discourage your free thinking, but God is not a God of confusion and we want to be consistent and discerning so that we may know the triune God better. I am encouraged today in reading 1 Thess 4:8, in that I am going with the NU Text and the NASB and "is giving" rather than the "has given" of the NKJ. In other words I am encouraged to think that we also can still be taught of (God) and receive instruction on how to walk and please (God). From the heart, Ray |
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4 | Omit or not?To raise up the Messiah? | Acts 2:30 | Mommapbs | 143444 | ||
Amen dear brother! | ||||||