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1 | Church Age? | Acts 2:17 | reformedreader | 3754 | ||
charis, How one defines their terminology determines how one translates this and other verses. If we begin with a presupposition that the term "Church Age" is actually a legitimate biblical term, then we must of necessity be able to comprehend that entirely from the Bible. Since the Bible never uses any such term, we can only conclude that it is a man-made term and whose definition of "Church Age" are we willing to accept as the definitive answer? The term "church" refers to the body of Christ, that is, all who have been called by the Father, circumcized by the Spirit and recevied by the Son. If we relate this only to those after Christ's resurrection, then we rule out Abraham and any other person from ever being saved or we are creating a dual mode of salvation of which the Bible also does not speak. I think the Bible is very clear that the church is made up of all who have been saved (the same way) of all ages, past, present and future. Therefore, it would be difficult (if not impossible) to say the Bible teaches a "Church Age" that is referring to only a specific period of time. If that is true, then there is no such thing as a "Church Age" in the Bible unless it is referring to all the saints of all ages. Let me know what you think. Sam Hughey |
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2 | OT church? | Acts 2:17 | charis | 3976 | ||
Dear Sam, Don't you think that the Old and New Covenants speak of two distinct salvation experiences? Though both operate through faith, does not the new covenant speak of the cross and the blood of Christ? Were these working before in Abraham and Moses? I'm not sure I understand your view that the church is applicable to Old Testament saints. Please explain. In Christ Jesus, charis |
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3 | OT church? | Acts 2:17 | Hank | 3977 | ||
Greetings, and what a discussion you have going! Wasn't the church a brand new organism that came into being on the day of Pentecost, Acts 2? Did not God pour out His Spirit -- "tongues as of fire" -- on that day, just as Jesus promised His disciples? Why would Jesus have said to Peter that "upon this rock I will build my church" if the church had been in existence for all time, as Sam suggests -- past, present and future? How do we work Romans 8 into this framework? The Jews lived under the Law of Moses, which Paul himself called "weak as it was through the flesh." The "church age" lives under "the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus" which has "set you free from the law of sin and of death." [Rom.8:2] The terms we use for the divisions of our Bible, Old and New Testaments, can as easily be called Old and New Covenants. In short, Christ pre-existed before His Advent, but the church did not. --Hank | ||||||
4 | OT church? | Acts 2:17 | JonnyRay49423 | 3981 | ||
The church is both visible and invisible. The Visible Church is made up all the elect from the beginning of the church in Genesis to the final gathering the elect described in Revelation. There is one church-one people of God made up of Jew and Gentitle (Ephesians 2:14-22). The Invisible Church is the church in heaven-the glorified saints. The Church is not the mystery revealed to the apostle Paul. The mystery is how God would bring together in one body Jew and Gentile through the death cross work of the Messiah. If we hold that there is a Jewish church and a Gentile church we bring confusion into the work of God. There is One Plan of God not one plan for Jews and one plan for non-Jews. |
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