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1 | New believers zealous for LAW? | Acts 21:24 | MJH | 139813 | ||
When I was young, I was told that the "law" (or Torah, Law of Moses) was done away with unless it was restated in the New Testament. Paul was said to have taught this. But here in Acts 21, we see Paul showing that the converts were "zealous for the law" and that he himself "walked in observance of the [Torah]". He even sacrificed to God after Jesus' atonement. AND he calls him self a Pharisee in the present tense. Any thoughts on this? A side note: one of the main questions I have been asking for the last couple of years (since I got a renewed fire for study) is, "What of the OT Laws apply to me, a Gentile, to the Jews in the Land, and to the Jews not in the Land?" Please don't answer THAT question right now, but I want to fully disclose why I am asking about Acts 21. For some reason I have missed this part of the story of Paul before. MJH – (re-born on this Forum to not be argumentative any more :-) |
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2 | New believers zealous for LAW? | Acts 21:24 | Mommapbs | 139866 | ||
Greetings MJH - see post 58292 by Emmaus. What you were "told" is a legalist approach to faith. Where do you see that in God's Word? The Law was given as a "schoolmaster" (Gal 3:24)to lead us to the Perfect Attonement for our lawbreaking - Jesus. The practice of sacrifice for sin was done away with, yet we are told to continue to "sacrifice our bodies" Rom 12:1-2. Jesus told us that the Law and the prophets were dependant upon the greatest commandment Mt 22:36-40. See also Dt 30:6 - The Lord enables us to be obedient to His command. This also reaffirms what Jesus tells us in John 15:5 - Apart from Me you can do nothing - we cannot love God apart from Christ! What a gift we have been given - a new heart and the indwelling Christ! (Ex 36:26) Blessings, mommapbs |
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3 | Zealous for the law? Sacraficed? Noah? | Acts 21:24 | MJH | 139870 | ||
This does not get to the heart of my question. They were said to be "zealous for the law." And Paul sacrificed. I uderstand that he was like all people to win some" but this hardly answers the question in my mind. Also, the Acts 15 counsel and Paul in Acts 21:25 state, "they should abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols and from blood and from what is strangled and from unchastity." This is right out of the Noah covenant according to the Jewish belief of the time. God fearers, those who did not get circumsiced, but stilled believed in the One True God were expected to uphold the Noahetic Covenant at the least. Some Jewish sources list 7 items in this Covenant (I can't find 7), but the Apostles list these four. Could this line of thinking make a difference in how we approach Paul in this context? Seriously just wondering here and asking the question because I do not know. MJH |
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4 | Zealous for the law? Sacraficed? Noah? | Acts 21:24 | Mommapbs | 139879 | ||
MJH - What is the "question in your mind" about Paul, about those who are zealous for the law? I'm not quite sure what you are looking for. Are you suggesting that we disband our churches and go to synagogue? That we keep Kosher homes etc? I found another post in the archives by Kalos that might offer some insight for you: 113831 mommapbs PS: Could you provide OT chapter and verse that reference the Noahetic Covenant to support the 4 prohibitions you quote here:"they should abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols and from blood and from what is strangled and from unchastity."? Thanks |
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5 | Zealous for the law? Sacraficed? Noah? | Acts 21:24 | Pastor Glenn | 139890 | ||
Hello Mommapbs, Here is one verse that may apply: Gen 9:4 But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat. |
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6 | Zealous for the law? Sacraficed? Noah? | Acts 21:24 | Mommapbs | 139897 | ||
Thanks Pastor Glenn - I found that too, but have no idea what MJH is referencing . . . Blessings, mommapbs |
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7 | Zealous for the law? Sacraficed? Noah? | Acts 21:24 | EdB | 139911 | ||
Mommapbs I think the problem, here is as many people get involved with serious Bible study they begin to see the importance of understanding Hebrew or Jewish culture. They then confuse this need to understand to actually begin conforming to the that culture. Many "Pastors" in the last 5 or so years have played to that and have brought in various Hebrew/Jewish customs into their church. One is the blowing of the Shofar. When properly done (timing, loudness etc)this seems to invoke an emotional response in the people that they then incorrectly interpret to be a sign from God. I have many Messianic Jewish friends that see Hebrew/Jewish customs as lingering of the law. Most distance themselves from them. However on the other hand I have an equal number of Christians friends (born Gentile) that have gotten involved in the "Messianic Judaism" that seem to want to get tied up in it all. They see it as getting in touch with their roots, they cling tenaciously to it almost using it as replacement for a real and genuine relationship with Christ. EdB |
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8 | Zealous for the law? Sacraficed? Noah? | Acts 21:24 | MJH | 139912 | ||
Yup, I concer with what you are saying. I have seen a Christian women convert to Judaism. It is a sad thing when people exchange the truth of the Gospel for the teachings of man -- Rabbis of old. There is a value to knowing what these men taught during Jesus time, but one must never forget how Jesus and Paul responded to misinterperations of the OT Text. You have been of great value to me in these discussions EdB. God Bless, MJH |
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