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1 | Becoming a christian | John 6:37 | DocTrinsograce | 222890 | ||
Dear Inquisitor, Most that support the view that baptism is essential to salvation do so based on the practices of the primitive church in Acts. See also Peter sermon at Pentecost (Acts 2:28). Remember, that our salvation -- in all its myriad aspects -- is gifted us (Ephesian 2:8-9). His sheep hear His voice and follow (John 10:25-30). In other words, baptism is something that saved people do, not something that creates saved people. Baptism is an ordnance of the church by our Lord Jesus (Matthew 28:18-20). Certainly it is a component of disciple making; e.g., believers growing in the love of Christ, their love of His Word, and their love of His church; continually growing to be more like Him. In Him, Doc |
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2 | Becoming a christian | John 6:37 | Inquisitor | 222891 | ||
Doc, I'm just trying to make sense out of what I see in my Bible and what I see and hear in the world. Now according to what I see from you, we're NOT supposed to follow "the practices of the primitive church in Acts" in spite of their following Jesus' Words. How can this be right? Please explain. I'm certainly NOT saying baptism is essential to this process. |
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3 | Becoming a christian | John 6:37 | DocTrinsograce | 222896 | ||
Dear Inquisitor, You are creating a false dichotomy here. Furthermore, I have nowhere said that we ought not to follow the example of the primitive church. Had I intended that I would have written that. As our Brother Brad has commented, we are to base our orthodoxy and orthopraxy on the full revelation of Scripture. This is what is meant by sola scriptura. We do not base our thinking and our practice solely on narrative -- as has been done by the Campbellites to whom you have presumably been exposed. Our Lord has seen fit to provide us with didactic writings from which we may profit (2 Peter 3:15-16). The didactic gives explicit instruction that can be lacking in the narrative. Frankly, the early churches had enormous problems -- for which thing God in His providence has allowed us enormous insight. For example, the problems at the church in Corinth gave rise to Paul's epistles. Anyway, relative to baptism: baptism is something that the saved do, not something that makes them saved. Birds fly because they are birds, flying does not make them birds. In Him, Doc |
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4 | Becoming a christian | John 6:37 | Inquisitor | 222908 | ||
Quoted from Doc: Anyway, relative to baptism: baptism is something that the saved do, not something that makes them saved. Birds fly because they are birds, flying does not make them birds. I'm not sure about the analogy of birds and their inborn ability to fly to this discussion. But I am interested in following ALL of the Words from the Bible on the subject of becoming a christian. It just seems like there's so much controversy and I don't understand why. I read Mk 16:15 And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned." Yes, I can ackowledge in light of CDBJ's post, there are some scriptures that DON'T say the word "baptism" but God only has to say something once and we should do it, right? After all, He is God. So in addition to believing, confessing, and repenting, it just seems natural to tell everyone when we're discussing this subject that baptism is part of the process. After all, one doesn't have the whole enchilada without all the vital ingredients, right? I'm just trying to get us all on the same page and aim for that unity for which our Lord prayed to His Father. Later on Paul encourages all christians to be of one mind, one faith, one body, one Lord and one baptism. Eph 4:4-6 It's not my obsession with this concept...it's the Lord's. He wants us to come to Him, as HE (and only He) is "the Way, the Truth and the Life." Jn 14:6 |
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5 | Becoming a christian | John 6:37 | srbaegon | 222911 | ||
Hello Inquisitor, What you find is that the NT references to baptism have an absolute and unbreakable link to salvation. But understand that baptism in the NT was a confession of faith like the so-called "Sinner's prayer" used today. Instead of talk, there was action. The correct understanding of what happened was misunderstood in later years of the church, eventually giving rise to the doctrine of baptismal regeneration. Steve |
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6 | Baptismal Regeneration | John 6:37 | Inquisitor | 222915 | ||
Quoted from Steve, "The correct understanding of what happened was misunderstood in later years of the church, eventually giving rise to the doctrine of baptismal regeneration." Can you tell me more about this "baptismal regeneration?" I looked it up in Wikipedia as I couldn't find it in my Bible but saw several different definitions and comments. Please include which scriptures support this doctrine. Thanks. |
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7 | Baptismal Regeneration | John 6:37 | DocTrinsograce | 222918 | ||
Concerning baptismal regeneration: http://www.spurgeon.org/sermons/0573.htm http://vintage.aomin.org/bapreg.html http://www.tmch.net/baptregenerate.htm |
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