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1 | John 4:10. Is God an it? Who is this? | John 4:10 | Ray | 120965 | ||
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2 | John 4:10. Is God an it? Who is this? | John 4:10 | Aixen7z4 | 121012 | ||
It is I who am undertaking to help here. Someone should try, and I am it. But it is God, perhaps, who must free us, from the need to focus on individual words so the thoughts from him can get through. For it is God who works in us both to will and to do of his good pleasure. It is humans who write words and change them over time, and it is I who will tell you that words have no purpose other than to communicate, and no meaning other than what they do communicate, and no flaw when they do communicate; but you may not believe me. Interesting, though, that “I” and “me” refer to the same person, and yet we capitalize “I”, and not “me”. It is humans who make these rules, but it is God who speaks to us in the Bible. It is the Spirit that bears witness, because the Spirit is truth. It is He who must free us from the tyranny of words to actually hear His voice through the written words. It is he who will need to say, “Be of good cheer; it is I; be not afraid”. | ||||||
3 | John 4:10. Is God an it? Who is this? | John 4:10 | Ray | 121049 | ||
Hi Aixen7z4, I am responding to your excellent post and I appreciate the time and thought that you put into it. I hope that even though the thread is restricted already, no one will get the idea that I am finding fault with translations or denying the power of the written word of God. I hope also that people will recognize that you have posted in good faith with a desire to counsel me toward the right direction. Sometimes a counsellor has to take a direct approach and get right to the problems and not mince any words. You have expressed the literary problems well and I appreciate your desire to help me personally as well. I appreciate it (your desire to help) and you. But someone should continue the thread and I am that one; I am he. I remember my parents telling me that even a neutered male or female cat or dog is not an "it". They still are to be respected for who they are, and not according to their gender or lack of gender. My thought is that neither you nor I are an "it". We respect each other for who we are, children of God. Webster: gender 1 Gram. a) the formal classification by which nouns are grouped and inflected, or changed in form, so as to reflect certain syntactic relationships: pronouns, modifiers, and verbs may also be so inflected: (continuing) although gender is not a formal feature in English, some nouns and the third person singular pronouns are distinguished according to sex or the lack of sex. (Ex: man or he, masculine gender; woman or she, feminine gender; door or it, neuter gender): (continuing) In most Indo-European languages, as well as in many others, gender is not necessarily correlated with sex. (End of Webster quote). We need a Greek scholar to tell us whether the One, or the it, spoken of in the Greek for John 4:10 has any gender significance. As I see it, (the verse) at this present time, we have two choices of how we see the verse interpreted. 1) Jesus is saying: "If you knew the gift of God and who the One is who is saying to you, 'Give Me a drink', you would have asked Him and He would have given you living water." In this interpretation of the "One", He would be the Giver of the gift, the living water; and He would even be the gift of God as well. In a sense He is the Word and the word; the Giver and the gift. 2) Or, we can interpret that "it" is simply the gift of God. Then Jesus would be saying, "If you knew the gift of God, living water, who is saying to you, 'Give Me a drink', you would have asked Him and He would have given to you living water." That is, He would have given to her the living water of spirit or Himself. I think that the key to understanding the passage is how we regard this Jesus of John 4:7 who is saying to the woman of Samaria, "Give Me a drink". Do we think of Him as a Man wearied from His journey who is asking for a drink? (I hope that we do not think of him as just a man wearied from his journey). Or do we think of Him as Spirit who has spiritual gifts from Himself to offer to us? Let me know what you think and meanwhile I will look at the Scriptures that you allude to in your post. A listing from you of the Scriptures that you had in mind would be helpful. From the heart, Ray |
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4 | John 4:10. Is God an it? Who is this? | John 4:10 | Rowdy | 121061 | ||
You both bring up good points. I must admit I pondered on this question briefly yesterday when I first saw it. I too am curious as to why it was labeled so quickly as being restricted. I must admit this whole controversy is far above my head so I'll just watch those of you who participate. I just wanted to let you know that I for one am definitely interested. God bless. --Rowdy |
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