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1 | Was Jesus Christ, Son of God from start? | John 3:1 | vkey | 18037 | ||
Was Jesus Christ the Son of God even in the begining. I agree that he was there from the very begining, (John 1:1). But isnt he called the Son of God only after he was born according to Luke 1:35 when the angel of God tells her, " so the Holy One born to you shall be called The Son of the Most High God" ? vkey |
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2 | Was Jesus Christ, Son of God from start? | John 3:1 | AWilliamson | 217594 | ||
Vkey, He was the Son of God from all eternity. As to OT references to the Son of God, check out Proverbs 30v4 where it intimates that God has a Son. "What is his name? or what is HIS SON'S name if you can tell?" Hence the Agur knew that God had a Son. Isaiah tells us about the coming of the Lord Jesus into this world, he says that "Unto us a child is born, unto us A SON IS GIVEN" (Isaiah 9v6)- praise God that He was a Son when he was given to Bethlehem and a Son when delivered up to the Cross! John 3v16 "God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son" - God gave His Son, His only begotten, not only into the world but up to death on a Cross for us. "Only begotten" is the translation of one word "monogenes" which means "one of a kind" "unique" - He was the Son who was unique to the Father, and yet He was given to the Cross for us! John 3v17 "God sent not His Son into the world to condemn the world but that the world through Him might be saved" Galatians 4v4 "When the fullness of the time was come God sent forth His Son" ...etc. He was evidently the Eternal Son before He came. Incidently if we believe in the Eternal Fatherhood of God, we must believe in the eternal Sonship of Christ. Finally, Vkey, you have mentioned Luke 1v35, please note that it DOESN'T say "the Holy One born to you shall BECOME the Son of God" BUT "shall be CALLED the Son of God". In His true humanity, He would become KNOWN and ACKNOWLEDGED by men as truly the Son of God. You also quoted, Heb 1v5, if you look at the greek, or change to a more accurate version you will find that it doesn't say that God became his father, but says "You are my Son today have I begotten you". Begotten means "brought forth", in this context, I take it, that it is a reference to the birth of Christ, begotten of the Holy Spirit, by way of the Virgin birth. I know it's an old thread but I thought I would clarify this important truth. In Christ, Andrew (really!!) |
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3 | Was Jesus Christ, Son of God from start? | John 3:1 | DocTrinsograce | 217596 | ||
Dear Andrew (Sibling of David) Williamson, Welcome to the forum! One of the difficulties in navigating the forum is noting the date on a post. The user vkey posted this question in 2001, and does not seem to have posted again since New Years Eve of the same year. Consequently, you may not receive a reply. :-) I think what you may mean is that the Son was not eternally Christ the Lord (Acts 2:36). The begetting of the Son is eternal. A lot of error arises when we think of begetting as a human function; i.e., as humans beget sons. God is not a creature, therefore, He begets according with His own uncreated, eternal nature. The begetting of the Son is just as eternal as the existence of God Himself. In other words, the Son has been eternally begotten, and is being eternally begotten, and shall be eternally begotten. You can see this doctrine expressed quite well in the Athanasian Creed. "The Father was neither made nor created nor begotten from anyone. The Son was neither made nor created; He was begotten from the Father alone. The Holy Spirit was neither made nor created nor begotten; He proceeds from the Father and the Son." These words are reflected in my own confession, the 1689 London Baptist Confession of Faith, chapter 2 (Of God and the Holy Trinity) paragraph 3: "In this divine and infinite Being there are three subsistences, the Father, the Word or Son, and Holy Spirit (1 John 5:7; Matthew 28:19; 2 Corinthians 13:14), of one substance, power, and eternity, each having the whole divine essence, yet the essence undivided (Exodus 3:14; John 14:11; 1 Corinthians 8:6), the Father is of none, neither begotten nor proceeding; the Son is eternally begotten of the Father (John 1:14, 18); the Holy Spirit proceeding from the Father and the Son (John 15:26; Galatians 4:6); all infinite, without beginning, therefore but one God, who is not to be divided in nature and being, but distinguished by several peculiar relative properties and personal relations; which doctrine of the Trinity is the foundation of all our communion with God, and comfortable dependence upon Him." In Him, Doc |
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