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1 | Do we accept? | John 1:1 | wings_on_fire | 229983 | ||
What i have seen that the Lord our God, says of Himself. i wondered why when you share this it is so often refused or called false? It relates to what Jesus and the scribe discussed in Mark 12.28 to 34 What i saw in the Jewish scriptures. Isa.40 18 And to whom do you compare God, and what likeness do you arrange for Him? (He asks all of us?) Isa.40 25 Now, to whom will you compare Me that I should be equal? says the Holy One.(He asks who may be equal to Him? As well as each and every one of these verses uses a singular, when He speaks of Himself? He asks each one of us again, a question?) Isa.46 5 To whom shall you liken Me and make Me equal and compare Me that we may be alike?(3nd time He asks us this?) Isa.46 9 Remember the first things of old, that I am God and there is no other. I am God and there is none like Me.. (Ok, so He tells us, to remember what He told us from the start, His same desire to make what He says of Himself known to all? As well as there is no other, that He is God and there is none like Me?) He answers these questions many times in His word, over and over. So what am i, are we to do with these things? Change them to fit our belief, or accept them? That has been a question ive asked myself alot lately, after seeing what He says of Himself. im not real sure what to do what was given, but i think i must accept what He says? T or F? |
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2 | Do we accept? | John 1:1 | Beja | 229984 | ||
Wings, It seems to me that your question is concerning the trinity. There is indeed a oneness in God that is so deep it is difficulty to explain. However, there are two ways you can overstate this oneness. 1.) You can overstate this oneness by denying the diety of Christ and the Holy Spirit. Scripture affirms the diety of these. So whatever Scripture is saying in these verses affirming their diety, it can not be used to contradict that or we have mishandled those passages. 2.) We can overstate God's oneness by denying the distinctions between the three persons, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. This would be akin to saying that Jesus is God but there is no distinction at all between Christ and the Father. Scripture does teach a distinction. Now within that bounds it is very fair to say that we can not begin to grasp the intense way in which they are united. Christ does affirm that anybody who sees Him has seen the Father. And Paul affirms that the Spirit is the Lord and again he calls it the Spirit of Christ. Their unity is deep beyond our ability to explain. But we must not let our inability to explain cause us to ignore either scriptures testimony of Christ's diety or its testimony of their distinctness. How should we feel about this? First, we affirm what scripture affirms whether we can explain it or not. Second, we ought to see a certain appropriatness to our inability to explain "what" God is. He is beyond our understanding. It is ours to know what He has revealed, not to explore the depths of his composition. In Christ, Beja |
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3 | Do we accept? | John 1:1 | wings_on_fire | 229987 | ||
He does tell us who He is and makes it plain is what i have seen. That any thought i may have can not question it when He makes it so clear? This is a example of what He says to a lifelong belief i held to my whole life, i had never seen or been told before. The belief, that Jesus was the Creator, that he was the one who made all things. i believed this to be true with everything within me. Then i see the Lord say,Isa.43 11 and understand that I am He, before Me no god was formed and after Me none shall be. (Why He says of Himself I am 1st and last, and there would be none after Me?) Isa.44 6 So said the Lord, the King of Israel and his(the prophet or David His appointed king?) Redeemer the Lord of Hosts, I am first and I am last, and besides Me there is no God. (As i ask myself but youre 3? As i continue to refuse what He states of Himself?) Isa.44 24 So said the Lord, your Redeemer, and the One Who formed you from the womb, I am the Lord Who makes everything, Who stretched forth the heavens alone, Who spread out the earth from My power. (Oh boy! Now He's claiming that what i have been taught isn't right?My belief as everyone i know claims as the only truth, that Jesus did this thing, my Lord says He did this thing alone? So can i continue to make this claim, knowing the Lord made this claim Himself?) Isa.45 18 For so said the Lord, the Creator of heaven, Who is God, Who formed the earth and made it, He established it. He did not create it for a waste, He formed it to be inhabited, I am the Lord and there is no other. (One thing of this proof verse of creation i have heard used, is that no one ever mentions the end of this verse, or what He says once again and what He says here as well? That He is the Lord and there is no other?) Neh.9 6 You alone are the Lord, You made the heavens, the heavens of the heavens and all their host, the earth and all that is upon it, the seas and all that is in them, and You give life to them all, and the heavenly host bow down before You. What He says about Himself here, or not? |
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4 | Do we accept? | John 1:1 | wings_on_fire | 229988 | ||
Was trying to share the thoughts i had as i was looking into this. i have a few examples of what i did with His word as i would read it. That i would just change it to fit my belief. 1Sam.2 2 There is none as holy as the Lord, For there is none besides You. And there is no rock like our God. Deut.32 39 See now that it is I! I am the One, and there is no god like Me! I cause death and grant life. I strike, but I heal, and no one can rescue from My Hand! Deut.4 35 You have been shown, in order to know that the Lord He is God, there is none else besides Him. 1 Chron.17 21 And who is like Your people Israel, one nation in the world, whom God went to redeem for Himself as a people, to make You a name of great and fearful things, to drive nations from before Your people, whom You redeemed from Egypt. (Boy! Can these guys ever get it right in the word of God? Now i have to just try to change the word of God and what it says to make it fit my belief. i have to go through another verse and change Himself in the singular to Us? Then i have to go fix this You, change this to You guys maybe? Ok then the last You we ll make They maybe? Just follow that belief with the other 2 places that you a singular and change them to all us gods? How about Jesus, well maybe we can just think that?) 1 Chron.17 20 O Lord, there is none like You, and there is no god besides You according to all that we have heard with our ears. (So this person states what God has repeatedly said unto us, saying that this is according to all they heard with their ears from Him?)One i have wrestled with to have peace within. i didnt have that with alot of His word before. i always had questions, things i wasnt sure of on my belief, if it was right and agreed with the whole council of His word. This helped alot, that all, and thanks for the reply, Dave |
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5 | Do we accept? | John 1:1 | Morant61 | 230034 | ||
Greetings Wings on Fire! Without really knowing you, it seems from your posts that you are confused about what the Doctrine of the Trinity is really all about. Here is a link that might help: http://www.gotquestions.org/Trinity-Bible.html The short version is this: 1) The Bible is clear that there is only One God, not two or three. 2) The Bible is also clear that three distinct Persons are all called God - Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Therefore, the Doctrine of the Trinity is saying that there are three distinct Person (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) who make up this One God. So, there is no problem with the New Testament saying the Jesus created everything and the Old Testament saying that God created everything, since Jesus is God. Read the short article above and see if it clarifies your understanding of the Trinity any. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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6 | Do we accept? | John 1:1 | Huldah | 230044 | ||
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