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1 | What do we need to know about God | John 17:3 | jamison | 208500 | ||
I say to step outside the box, because if we don't we just read our theology into the Scriptures. Our theology defines the Bible instead of the Scriptures defining our theology. Do I live outside the box of standard theology, yes. Did Jesus, yes. Did the Pharisees, no. | ||||||
2 | What do we need to know about God | John 17:3 | peacebestill | 208511 | ||
jamison Could you please just answer Hank's question and tell us all what, exactly this "outside the box" type theology this is you believe in? And further, could you please define which theology Jesus had that was "outside the box"? And next please define what theology the Pharisees had that was "inside the box"? And would you be willing to do all that with scriptures please?:-) peacebestill |
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3 | What do we need to know about God | John 17:3 | jamison | 208536 | ||
Peace, Jeff, Hank, and anyone else, What type of theology I believe is not important. I am not trying to persuade you to think inside my box, but to think outside yours. Brad asked earlier if my theology was pure and without outside influence. No, of course not. But I am willing to test everything I believe. Just because mainstream Christianity or my current theology teaches something does not make it true. Even with Scripture to support it, because as I showed earlier with this, Scripture can easily be used to support inheriting eternal life by selling and giving to the poor. We just shoot that down because it doesn't agree with salvation by faith alone which is our current and mainstream theology. Well challenge that. Maybe the theology is wrong. You can't just say it doesn't agree with this theology so it must be wrong. Jeff did well in his explanation. Very well indeed. By the way, I don't think keeping the commandments or selling and giving to poor are ways to heaven. Which theology did Jesus have that was outside the box? Plenty... Eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth - mainstream and inside the box (just ask the Pharisees) Jesus says to turn the other cheek - goes against teaching of religious leaders and mainstream theology. (Matt 5:38-39 compare Ex 21:24) It is unlawful to work on Sabbath - inside the box, exactly what mainstream theology taught. Jesus said Sabbath was made for man, not man for Sabbath - outside the box, against mainstream theology. (Mark 2:27). I think two will suffice, but can give more if you need them. The pharisees were the religious leaders of their day. They had the Scriptures in their language and basically in their culture (it had changed some over the years of course) and some books only 500 years old. We have the Scriptures in translated form nowhere close to our culture and 2000 and more years later. If they could not see the truth, why do we think that mainstream theology today can? I ask this question often but have yet to receive an answer. The Pharisees wouldn't know God if He walked beside them (oh yeah, He did). And yet our theologians do the exact same thing. They read the Scriptures for exactly what they SAY and not what they MEAN. They miss the heart of God. Please reply to my one question in here. Why do we think theologians of today are more accurate than theologians of Jesus' day? Good evening to all. I mean you no ill will, but challenge you to think "outside the box (your individual theology and mainstream theology)". By the way, sorry I didn't respond earlier. I gotta go to work too you know:) jamison |
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4 | What do we need to know about God | John 17:3 | DocTrinsograce | 208538 | ||
Dear Jamison, I rarely have seen such presumption. You'll test everything, as long as it has nothing to do with theology. (Even though it is clear you don't even understand the simplest aspects of theology.) While we carry the weight of Christs teaching and His explicitly theological gifts to the church (Ephesians 4:11-17), you have your rebellious independence and self-righteousness arrogance. Young man, I seriously worry for you. If you belong to Christ, you have an enormous amount of winnowing ahead of you (Hebrews 12). In Him, Doc |
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5 | What do we need to know about God | John 17:3 | jamison | 208544 | ||
Doc, Again the question has went unanswered. I don't really expect an answer. I have asked it enough times to realize that no one wants to answer it. "You'll test everything, as long as it has nothing to do with theology". Not quite sure what that means. However, I am not against theology. We all have one, even I. But I am against our theology being more important than learning about God. When we make statements like...what Jesus says contradicts the doctrine of salvation by faith alone, so He must have meant something else...then we have put our doctrines and theology above learning about God. And that is exactly what the Pharisees did to Jesus time and time again. We defend our doctrines to the end. jamison |
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6 | What do we need to know about God | John 17:3 | peacebestill | 208552 | ||
jamison Can you repeat the question please? It is not clear what the question is from reading you in the thread? :-) Was the question why do we not do what Jesus said about how to get eternal life in the case of the that man? If that is the question, it was answered by someone who explained that Jesus was pointing to the man's inability to keep the law as a way to get there, rather than really giving him a way to eternal life. Mark 10:25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. peacebestill |
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7 | What do we need to know about God | John 17:3 | jamison | 208556 | ||
Hello peace, No, that is not the question I was referring to, but I appreciate you helping. I am referring to post 208536. Thank you, jamison |
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