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1 | Are these words for today? | John 13:35 | Aixen7z4 | 106626 | ||
In some ways John 13:35 seems to be a proof text for our faith. Jesus seems to be saying the fact that we love one another is proof we are his disciples. What when we do not show love for one another? Does that prove we are not his disciples? What when other groups, un-believers, non-believers, show love for one another? The previous verse is a commandment that we love one another, and Jesus seemed to be counting on the fact we would. One wonders what all men would know if we didn't. Jesus prayed, "That they all may be one ...: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me...; that they may be one, even as we are one:..., that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me". One wonders whether God would have to go to some other proofs, depending on our behavior. The Muslims and the Moonies think he did. |
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2 | Are these words for today? | John 13:35 | Morant61 | 106628 | ||
Greetings Aixen7z4! There are a number of 'hard sayings' of Jesus which are difficult for us to swallow today. This would definitely qualify as one of those hard sayings. Yet, I believe it is absolutely true. 1 John 3:14 affirms the same truth: "We know that we have passed from death to life, because we love our brothers. Anyone who does not love remains in death." If we have been regenerated and have passed from death to life, we will love one another. Those who don't love, are not regenerated! As far as the world is concerned, I would argue that the 'love' they know apart from Christ is not the same kind of 'love' that Christ is commanding us to have for one another. (See 1 Cor. 13) :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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3 | Then love is a litmus test? | John 13:35 | Aixen7z4 | 106678 | ||
John does give criteria for judgment, does he not? “Believe not every spirit”, he says, “but try the spirits to see whether they are of God.” What then do you make of those in our midst who show no love? John says, “We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren”. Does that mean some brethren, or all the brethren? Does it mean “Us four and no more”, or does it mean all the brethren? Who is my brother anyway? Is he the one who looks like me or talks like me or makes me feel good? I think I am talking about some things we see among professing Christians. John’s words seem to be an acid test. “He that loveth not his brother abideth in death. Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him”. Yet who dares suggest to a person that he’s not saved because he is not showing love? He will say he is saved and he will even say he’s showing love, tough love or something. Some deride the idea of love altogether, choosing instead the criterion of truth. But it seems there are objective ways to perceive love. “Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren”. Some of us are unwilling to sacrifice anything, least of all our lives. There are objective ways to perceive love. A person may say he loves. “But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?” But one may ask, “Who is my brother?” And everyone has those whom they would help. But would they help him simply because he is a brother? All these questions really amount to one question. Is there such a thing as a saved person admitting that he does not have love toward certain other saved people? Or would such an admission mean he is not saved? What then? Does he try to show love? Or does he repent of his sinfulness and seek salvation? A person sometimes wonders if he is saved. A person often wonders if the other person is saved. Is not love for the brethren a litmus test? How does a person know. John says, “We know because we love”. Jesus had said, “By this shall all men know”. |
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4 | Then love is a litmus test? | John 13:35 | kalos | 106684 | ||
Who are you to judge the servant of another? To his own master he stands or falls; and he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand... But you, why do you judge your brother? Or you again, why do you regard your brother with contempt?...NASB Romans 14:4,10 " Examine and test and evaluate YOUR OWN SELVES to see whether you are holding to your faith." What gives us the idea that we have been commissioned to examine OTHERS to see if THEY are in the faith? NASB 2 Corinthians 13:5 Test yourselves to see if you are in the faith; examine yourselves! Or do you not recognize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you--unless indeed you fail the test? AMPLIFIED 2 Corinthians 13:5 Examine and test and evaluate your own selves to see whether you are holding to your faith and showing the proper fruits of it. Test and prove yourselves [not Christ]. Do you not yourselves realize and know [thoroughly by an ever-increasing experience] that Jesus Christ is in you--unless you are [counterfeits] disapproved on trial and rejected? |
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5 | Then love is a litmus test? | John 13:35 | Aixen7z4 | 106689 | ||
Exactly. | ||||||