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1 | THE MOST POWERFUL VERSE IN EVANGELISM | John 12:32 | tj57h@cs.com | 88554 | ||
Joh 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. As we lift up Jesus Christ on this earth all those around us and ourselves are drawn unto him. To be raised to life one must hear the Gospel, be born again, and that requires belief in the heart and confession with the mouth the Lord Jesus. Rom 10: 8- 10. THIS IS THE MOST POWERFUL VERSE IN EVANGELISM AND ENCORAGEMENT IN THE BIBLE IN MY OPINION; WE NEED TO SPEND MORE TIME LIFTING UP JESUS AND HIS NAME! Love, Tim Hines |
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2 | THE MOST POWERFUL VERSE IN EVANGELISM | John 12:32 | khuck | 103886 | ||
(I, if I be lifted up from the earth) If we who are here on this earth, those in which His very Spirit abides will just exalt Him (LIFT HIS NAME - HERALD HIS GOOD NEWS)! (I will draw all men unto me) He will; not us, but Jesus WILL draw all men unto Himself. Dear Brother Tim... you have a taker... I will gladly exalt and magnify Him! Not only for our sake, but for those who do not know Him! God Bless you, Kathy |
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3 | THE MOST POWERFUL VERSE IN EVANGELISM | John 12:32 | Aixen7z4 | 103913 | ||
Kathy, we should do all that. And you are correct: We should do it, not primarily for our sake but for His sake, and for their sakes, those who do not yet know Him. We should exalt him (Exodus 15:2;Isaiah 25:1). We should praise him (Isaiah 25:1; Isaiah 42:12) . We should boast of him (Psalm 34:2; Psalm 44:8). We should glory in his name (1 Chronicles 16:10;Psalm 105:3). We should magnify the Lord (Psalm 34:3; Psalm 69:30; Luke 1:46). It will affect and draw those who are humbly seeking him. The only point is that none of this is suggested in Luke 12:32. That passage is speaking of Jesus being lifted up on the cross. Maybe we should start another thread on the role of praise in evangelism and base it on Psalm 69:30-32. |
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4 | THE MOST POWERFUL VERSE IN EVANGELISM | John 12:32 | khuck | 103942 | ||
Hi Noble! :) Please read all of my post regarding this. The translation of the words that Tim and I are using is a correct and more of a Spiritual viewpoint, but it does translate as exaltation in the greek. All that you point to and reference I am in agreement with to. As a matter of fact I also point out these references in my previous post... (wondering if you have read those.) I know that Jesus was signifying the way that He would die. Yet He was also speaking of his being EXALTED. Check out the greek translations. The words "If I be lifted up" translates also within the context that Jesus used the words: Whenever I be exalted, Wherever I be exalted, Whosoever exalts Me" Exalts Mine Exalts Mine Own the words He used actualy translate like this too. Exalting His words draws men, whenever we preach that Gospel we are exalting him before the world. So again I say There is much biblical bases for saying LORD I EXALT YOUR NAME. As I said before It is the only Name that a man call call upon and be saved, demons tremble at the very sound of that Name, it is a Name exalted above all others. I will forever exalt and magnify the Name of Jesus. You don't know what He's done for me, but He gave me victory... and I love Him, deeply Love Him.... I really love the Lord. And that my dearest friend:) is why I say I lift His Name on High or I exalt His Name. I understand your that "facts" are true and I do agree with them. Always yours in Christ, -Kathy |
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5 | THE MOST POWERFUL VERSE IN EVANGELISM | John 12:32 | Aixen7z4 | 104002 | ||
Kathy: I like your motive, and Tim's. But I am afraid we simply have to look to other scriptures. Can it be that Jesus was using the word with a double meaning, when he spoke in the passage at hand of being lifted up? If we looked it up we’d get G5312: hupsoo From G5311; to elevate (literally or figuratively): - exalt, lift up. How could we decide if Jesus was using the word literally, or figuratively, or both? By looking at the word we could not tell. And that is why I say again, we do not look at the word. We get the meaning from the context. From the context we understand that the word is to be taken literally and not figuratively. Why could it not be taken figuratively? We need to look at the context of the rest of Scripture. When Jesus went to the cross was he being exalted? No. He was being degraded. He was brought low. He was despised and rejected. No one in heaven or in earth was rejoicing. Even his persecutors were watching in apprehension, wandering if he would come down from the cross. But he was wounded for our transgressions. His body was high, but his spirit was low. He was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death. He was being made sin for us. He was being made a curse. He was put to grief when his soul was made an offering for sin. He was not being exalted in any way. A word can always have many meanings. It is the context that gives it the real meaning. So again I say, we can lift Jesus high. But not on the cross. John 12:32 does not suggest it, and John 12:33 does not allow it. Hebrews 6 says if we put him back on the cross we crucify him afresh and bring him to an open shame. We can praise him for what he accomplished on the cross, but we do not rejoice to see him there. The cross is a place of sorrow and shame, and I think we ought to leave it at that. But now, But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honor. He is risen, and ascended. He is at the right hand of the father. One more we can sing “Glory to God in the highest”. |
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6 | THE MOST POWERFUL VERSE IN EVANGELISM | John 12:32 | khuck | 104005 | ||
Dear Noble, From all of my research it says that both meanings apply, and you are right he was degraded. but through that very degrading experience he was exalted. I too understand that you see the all of the word pertaining to this verse and I promise you I do too. Once again I agree that he not only foretells that he'd be lifted, but also how he would die. Yet using the greek translations that I came across, I see also another profound meaning. And maybe that is just me Noble. You know I mean no harm or insult, but I trust that I am not wrong on this, nor do I feel your undertanding is erroneous. So please my dearest friend, forgive me if I am choosing to walk a bit further down the path. I love you as always in Christ, -Kathy |
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