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1 | THE MOST POWERFUL VERSE IN EVANGELISM | John 12:32 | tj57h@cs.com | 88754 | ||
Hank I perceive you are a man puffed up in your human understanding of the word. The greatest thing you have accomplished is insulting me and my walk and tried to intimidate me. You have missed the point and due to the fact that you seem only interested in shutting me up and insulting me, I believe it has come time to part ways. Nothing you have said to me has been Spiritually edifying. I have tried to offer edification on a scripture I believe very strongly on. You have rejected it. The letter killeth but the Spirit givith life. As far as studying the word I no of no one that studies more. Thank you! I pray that you find the truth, I hope you do the same for me! Tim |
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2 | THE MOST POWERFUL VERSE IN EVANGELISM | John 12:32 | Radioman2 | 88764 | ||
You write: "The letter killeth but the Spirit givith life." What does that mean? What do you mean by that? You're not saying that what the BIBLE SAYS kills, but what YOU FEEL it means gives life, do you? |
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3 | THE MOST POWERFUL VERSE IN EVANGELISM | John 12:32 | tj57h@cs.com | 88781 | ||
The question is not what I mean by it "You tell me what you think it means" you are the one who is so convinced that I am wrong. You must know what it means. We have to put the bible to use in our lives and learn that it is alive. We are following Christ by a new and living way not by a written code, we have to walk by the Spirit through revelation knowledge. (Living way, quickened by the life of Christ) There is a Spiritual component to the word of God. Have you though of communicating something that would edify the hearers of what you speak. I have red nothing that you have written that gives encouragement, you are just expressing your views you are right and I am wrong. I walk in the Spirit as the Lord leads, I am sorry if you find it offensive! Love Tim |
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4 | THE MOST POWERFUL VERSE IN EVANGELISM | John 12:32 | stjones | 103924 | ||
Hi, Tim; I hope you won't think I'm piling on here. What I think these folks are telling you is that the interpretation you have attached to John 12:32 is different from the interpretation that John (inspired by the Holy Spirit) gave in the very next verse. Hank (who can be a little grouchy now and then) and others are simply following the example of the Bereans (Acts 17:11) and searching the Scriptures to see if what you say is true. I have to believe that the Holy Spirit inspired John to record the words that Jesus spoke in verse 32 and give the reason in verse 33. If you give a different reason, I have no choice but to conclude that your reason is wrong - not because Hank or I or anyone else on this forum says so but because the Bible says so. The Holy Spirit did not change his mind and reveal a different reason to anyone. That said, I would certainly agree that we are called to lift up ("raise" or "elevate") the name of Jesus before the world so that people can see him and be drawn to him. And it's also true that we would have no reason to lift up Jesus' name if he had not been bodily lifted up (crucified). But that was done once for all 2000 years ago and can never be done again (except in the sense of Hebrews 6:5-6). Also, there is nothing wrong with saying that the reason you feel led to evangelize is given in verse 32. After all, it is because he was lifted up on the cross that you and I and the rest of us are drawn to him in the first place. Peace and grace, Steve aka Indiana Jones who, unlike Hank, is NEVER grouchy ;-) |
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5 | THE MOST POWERFUL VERSE IN EVANGELISM | John 12:32 | tj57h@cs.com | 103947 | ||
Praise his name, Exault him, sing praises unto him. He is already lifted up and all men are drawn unto him; however, If someone does not proclame it those who are lost will not hear it, believe and become born again. We participate in his exaltation by proclaming the good news, the Gospel. It is settled im my mind and heart, save the further writings and take the time to tell someone about him. That is what we are to do. Which is more important, spending hours proving someone is wrong in their understanding and you are right or telling someone that Jesus is alive and has paid the price for their sins. Praise God if I am wrong in my understanding, because Jesus Christ is preached and that he has risen. I am just proclaming that he is lifted up. He is drawing all men unto himself. Love, Tim |
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6 | THE MOST POWERFUL VERSE IN EVANGELISM | John 12:32 | stjones | 103961 | ||
Tim; You said: "Which is more important, spending hours proving someone is wrong in their understanding and you are right or telling someone that Jesus is alive and has paid the price for their sins." I don't think you'll get much argument about which is more important. But this is a Bible study forum, after all. "As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another." (Proverbs 27:17) You don't learn anything when everybody in the room nods and agrees with you. When people disagree and show how God's word led them to their conclusion, you have something new to think about. God isn't double-minded. The question is not "who's right?"; the question is "what else has God said that can help resolve this paradox?" At the end of the day, we may know more about God's word and what it means. As a woodworker, I can tell you that sometimes when you sharpen iron, sparks fly, things get hot, and the iron occasionally loses its temper. To minimize the damage, everyone needs to approach the discussion with a humble heart and a measure of grace. A thick skin doesn't hurt either. I must confess that any forum old-timer who participated in the Great Evolution War or the Great Judas' Fate War can tell you that I don't always follow my own advice. Peace and grace, Steve aka Indiana Jones |
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