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1 | Where was Lazarus for 4 days? | John 11:11 | danieln | 57662 | ||
"The term "sleep" is never applied to the soul or the spirit, but only the body. The soul and the spirit continue to exist after death. The body "sleeps" and goes back to dust. The following verses refer to the state of the body's death as sleep: " thankyou you kalos, but i just fail to see how, those verse's specify that in describing the person as 'asleep' they are refering to the body only? i agree that mans soul and spirit are more than just breath, but i would submit that they are aspects of a human which are indivisible. The word for "soul" in the Old Testament is nephesh. Nephesh is translated many different ways in the Old Testament: any 3 appetite 2 beast 2 body 4 breath 1 creature 9 dead 5 dead body 4 desire 4 fish 1 "And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul (nephesh, psuche)" (Gen. 2:7). [He became a "soul" rather than received a "soul."] "Whatsoever Adam called every living creature (nephesh, psuche), that was the name thereof" (Gen. 2:19). [Animals are "souls."] "Say, I pray thee, thou art my sister: that it may be well with me for thy sake; and my soul (nephesh, psuche) shall live because of thee" (Gen. 12:13). ["Souls" can die.] "And the king of Sodom said unto Abram, Give me the persons (nephesh), and take the goods to thyself" (Gen. 14:21). ["Soul" here refers to the entire person.] "Whatsoever soul (nephesh, psuche) it be that eateth any manner of blood, even that soul (nephesh, psuche) shall be cut off from his people" (Lev. 7:27). ["Souls" can eat and be cut off.] "And whatsoever soul (nephesh, psuche) it be that doeth any work in that same day, the same soul (nephesh, psuche) will I destroy from among his people" (Lev. 23:30). ["Souls" can work and be destroyed.] there are many more verses in the bible that use the word soul alot differently then how it traditionally in the church has been used, and i think that the biblical wholistic view of human nature is incompatible with the notion of the "immortal soul". Indeed is not God the source and sustainer of all and any life, how can anything live on when seperated from him. Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. the idea that "we shall not surely die" originated from one being. Gen 3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. Gen 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: this lie worked so well that it has been used by the deciever over and over.. the idea of an afterlife, is apparent in just about every pagan system(reincarnation, greek underworld etc...) and sadly also in the mainstream church. at least thats what i believe may the holy spirit guide us into all truth Joh 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. |
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2 | Where was Lazarus for 4 days? | John 11:11 | Ray | 57683 | ||
Hi danieln, I believe that when one discusses the Spirit and spiritual things, that attention must be given to capitalization. John 16:13, "But when He, the Spirit/ of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on (His) own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come." John 4:25, "The woman said to Him, "I know that Messiah is coming, (He/ who is called Christ); when that One comes, (He) will declare all things to us." May the Holy Spirit guide us into all truth. From the heart, Ray |
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3 | Where was Lazarus for 4 days? | John 11:11 | danieln | 57684 | ||
Sure Ray, that sounds fair enough. I shall endeavor to be less sloppy when writing about such things. daniel |
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4 | Where was Lazarus for 4 days? | John 11:11 | Ray | 57700 | ||
Hi danieln, I am glad that you took my post in the spirit that it was given. For I did not mean to find fault but merely wanted to make the point. Many times we might get lazy and not use the shift key, or sometimes we might not be thinking in lines of capitalization. Or sometimes we may not know which is correct, spirit or Spirit, in the Scriptures. I know that my personal copy with its choices, is not in ink yet. A lot is penciled in. But in any case we all have to be ready to make clear what we mean and what our capitalization choices are. One choice of "holy spirit" for me would be Romans 5:5, for instance. Or Titus 3:5. Romans 5:5, "and hope does not disappoint, because the love of God HAS BEEN POURED OUT within our hearts through the *holy *spirit who was given to us." Titus 3:5, "He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the *holy *spirit, whom [which] He POURED OUT upon us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, that being justified by His grace we might be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life." However, this should be another thread. Perhaps other verses come to mind, which are more appropriate for the study at hand. 1 Peter 3:18 just came to my mind. Which do you go with, spirit or Spirit? From the heart, Ray |
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