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1 | Father | John 10:29 | EdB | 11125 | ||
Isa You said when you asked the question, I responded to, that you weren’t questioning the trinity. Now you are attempting to do just that. In answer to your question John 10:29. In the trinity God (the Father) is supreme to the Son (Jesus) however since the come together with the Holy Spirit to complete the Trinity they are one. In John 10:9 Jesus refers to Himself as the Door or gate and you can only approach the Father through Him. God is holy we can not come into His presence in our sinful state. We need to be cleansed, Jesus provides the cleansing, hence to reach the Father we must pass through Jesus. We must believe by faith. Do not lose yourself in things of God that are to wonderful to completely comprehend. Trust what you see. In Mark 1:8-11 we see all three aspects of the trinity. “Jesus being baptized, the Holy Spirit descending as a dove, and the father’s voice from heaven saying this is my son in whom I am well pleased.” Notice there was many witnesses present and if this were not true secular history would have recorded this attempted lie. I know the Quran teaches Jesus was a great prophet, if that be true then we have to believe what Jesus said, as no great prophet would lie. He said “I and the Father are one.” John 10:30. Also note John 14:9 Jesus said to him, "Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how can you say, 'Show us the Father'? Isa the God of the Christians offers forgiveness, love and acceptance. He doesn’t want to beat you down or weigh your life. He wants to love you and to have you love him. You do not have to fear Him but accept Him for what He is, the one that so loved you that He laid down his life for you. He does not hold a sword above your head ready to fall at any moment but rather he extends his arms to you. Jesus die that you might live, that is why he calls Himself a door, a gateway, he is the door the gateway to life and life abundantly. God is not angry God wants you to come to Him as a child to a Father. He wants to love you and tell you your special to Him, so special He gave all that He had for you, Jesus gave His life. Be blessed my friend! Ed |
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2 | Why Jesus prays to his Father | John 10:29 | userdoe217 | 11162 | ||
May you be blessed too my friend Ed, Yes the Quran teaches that he is sinless and I should accept his word, but if you are going to accept the Quran, then by that argument alone he is not son of God Quran 9:31 They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords in derogation of Allah, and (they take as their Lord) Christ the son of Mary; yet they were commanded to worship but One Allah. there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him: (Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him). I believe that his words have been misinterpreted, and some of them may not really be the words of Jesus himself but they were later added. James Dunn in his book The Evidence for Jesus writes: "If they were aprt of the original words of Jesus himself, how could it be that Only John picked them up and None of the others? Call it scholarly skepticism if you like, but I find it almost incredible that such sayings should have been neglected Had they been known as a feature of Jesus' teaching. If the 'I ams' had been part of the original tradition, it is very hard indeed to explain why none of the other three evangelists made use of them." (page 36) I believe the "I ams" he is referring to are: John 8:12, John 10:7, John 11:25, and John 15:1 About the cleansing thru Jesus, are you saying the Father does not love us enough or we are not important enough to pray to him directly that we need to pray to Jesus first? And more importantly did not Jesus set an example for us to Pray to the Father? And What about the prophets and mankind before Jesus? They have been praying to God direct all this time, why now after hundreds of years do we suddenly need cleansing before praying to God? God doesn't love us enough that we can ask him as the Father for something, like Jesus did so often, and did he not say that the Father is greater than him? and he even clarified that the Father is not only HIS father, but anyone can call God "Father", Matthew 23:9 "Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven. And more to the point: John 20:17 Jesus *said to her, "Stop clinging to Me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, 'I ascend to My Father and your Father, and My God and your God.'" If Jesus is God, that means the Father is God of God, correct? How can God have a God? This bewilders me! Now on another note You said "Notice there was many witnesses present and if this were not true secular history would have recorded this attempted lie. " Please do not be offended, I am only presenting the evidence, But does not the Bible teach that the Earth is 10,000 years old? The secular world deny this claim, claiming the earth is billions of years old? The Quran makes no such claim about this young Earth. Does not the Bible claim there was a worldwide flood? The Quran makes no such claim that it was a worldwide flood (again the concept of a worldwide flood is denied in the scientific world). I suggest you should take a look, I think you will find the most beautiful stories in the Quran which you have also read in the Bible. Stories of David, Solomon, Lot, Job, Noah, and so on, except Solomon never had 1000 wives and concubines, nor did he make a temple for the worship of idols (sinless), neither did Lot insestually seduce his daughters night after night (sinless), nor did David commit adultery (sinless), and Noah never got drunk (sinless). These prophets were chosen because they were righteous people. They would never commit such attrocities as the Bible depicts. Infact there are many scientific truths in the Quran such as: All life originated from water. 21:30 Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation), before we clove them asunder? We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe? The earth is round 21:33 It is He Who created the Night and the Day, and the sun and the moon: all (the celestial bodies) swim along, each in its rounded course. These are some of the reasons I am still disbelieve in the divinity of Christ. Isa |
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3 | Why Jesus prays to his Father | John 10:29 | glory777 | 11182 | ||
Isa- I have a web site you might be interested in. go to www.ICR.org They do research on what science is finding out about how truthful the bible really is in recording historical fact. In reading how sinful David, Solomon, etc. were, the one thing that they all had in common is their trust in God. It was by faith and the grace of God that caused these men to be so loved by the Lord. "For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not by works (or lack of sin, I might add) lest any man should boast" Eph 2:8-9. Abraham told Sarah to lie about being his wife, commited adultary, but it was his faith that made him righteous. Romans 4. I am so glad that I don't have to "do" anything to be righteous before my God. It makes me want to do what He would like me to do, just because He loves me. I have confidence in my future and true peace in my soul. I do pray that you will come to the same conclusion. Blessings, Debbie |
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