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1 | Why Jesus prays to his Father | John 10:29 | userdoe217 | 11162 | ||
May you be blessed too my friend Ed, Yes the Quran teaches that he is sinless and I should accept his word, but if you are going to accept the Quran, then by that argument alone he is not son of God Quran 9:31 They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords in derogation of Allah, and (they take as their Lord) Christ the son of Mary; yet they were commanded to worship but One Allah. there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him: (Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him). I believe that his words have been misinterpreted, and some of them may not really be the words of Jesus himself but they were later added. James Dunn in his book The Evidence for Jesus writes: "If they were aprt of the original words of Jesus himself, how could it be that Only John picked them up and None of the others? Call it scholarly skepticism if you like, but I find it almost incredible that such sayings should have been neglected Had they been known as a feature of Jesus' teaching. If the 'I ams' had been part of the original tradition, it is very hard indeed to explain why none of the other three evangelists made use of them." (page 36) I believe the "I ams" he is referring to are: John 8:12, John 10:7, John 11:25, and John 15:1 About the cleansing thru Jesus, are you saying the Father does not love us enough or we are not important enough to pray to him directly that we need to pray to Jesus first? And more importantly did not Jesus set an example for us to Pray to the Father? And What about the prophets and mankind before Jesus? They have been praying to God direct all this time, why now after hundreds of years do we suddenly need cleansing before praying to God? God doesn't love us enough that we can ask him as the Father for something, like Jesus did so often, and did he not say that the Father is greater than him? and he even clarified that the Father is not only HIS father, but anyone can call God "Father", Matthew 23:9 "Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven. And more to the point: John 20:17 Jesus *said to her, "Stop clinging to Me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, 'I ascend to My Father and your Father, and My God and your God.'" If Jesus is God, that means the Father is God of God, correct? How can God have a God? This bewilders me! Now on another note You said "Notice there was many witnesses present and if this were not true secular history would have recorded this attempted lie. " Please do not be offended, I am only presenting the evidence, But does not the Bible teach that the Earth is 10,000 years old? The secular world deny this claim, claiming the earth is billions of years old? The Quran makes no such claim about this young Earth. Does not the Bible claim there was a worldwide flood? The Quran makes no such claim that it was a worldwide flood (again the concept of a worldwide flood is denied in the scientific world). I suggest you should take a look, I think you will find the most beautiful stories in the Quran which you have also read in the Bible. Stories of David, Solomon, Lot, Job, Noah, and so on, except Solomon never had 1000 wives and concubines, nor did he make a temple for the worship of idols (sinless), neither did Lot insestually seduce his daughters night after night (sinless), nor did David commit adultery (sinless), and Noah never got drunk (sinless). These prophets were chosen because they were righteous people. They would never commit such attrocities as the Bible depicts. Infact there are many scientific truths in the Quran such as: All life originated from water. 21:30 Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation), before we clove them asunder? We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe? The earth is round 21:33 It is He Who created the Night and the Day, and the sun and the moon: all (the celestial bodies) swim along, each in its rounded course. These are some of the reasons I am still disbelieve in the divinity of Christ. Isa |
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2 | Why Jesus prays to his Father | John 10:29 | EdB | 11228 | ||
Isa You have no interest at all of seeking truth you just want trout the Quran and Islam. Islam teaches it is alright to send children and youth on suicide missions, Islam teaches it is okay to keep women oppressed and downtrodden, Islam teaches hate not love, Islam teaches if you can't convert them to Islam kill them. Islam teaches you have an angry God one that is waiting for you to make a mistake. Islam teaches Jews are not God’s chosen people when God repeatedly tell us they are. Islam teaches Jews have no right to the promised land, when in fact God gave them the land. Islam teaches it okay to kill women and babies and blame it on the Jews to pervert world opinion. To defend against that would be to recognize Islam of having some validity. So I will not! One thing that really bothers me is the fact that a split second after you die you are going to realize how deceived you are. Unfortunately it will be then too late. That my Islamic friend tears my heart out. |
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3 | Why Jesus prays to his Father | John 10:29 | userdoe217 | 11361 | ||
My friend. What you are talking about is what muslims DO, not what the Islam or the Quran teaches. It does *NOT* teach to kill those you cannot "convert" as you put it. 8:61 But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in Allah. for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things). As for the rest of the things you noted, i'll leave it be. I believe you hate muslims, not Islam. I am not TRYING to convert you, but read the Quran if you want to know about islam (your choice), it doesnt teach these things, my friend. And we are all chosen people of God. Israelites do not have any special status with God over the rest of the world - black people, chinese people, indian people, we all have equal status. Isa |
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4 | Why Jesus prays to his Father | John 10:29 | EdB | 11378 | ||
Isa Your wrong Jews are God's chosen people. Do faithful Muslims follow the teaching of the Quran or do they not? If Mohammed was such a peace maker why did he raise so many armies and wages so many wars? What by definition is a infidel? What does the Quran say to do to infidels. You may be able to pull the wool over the eyes of uninformed but we Christians are children of light, we have the Holy Spirit to lead us to all truth. Islam is a religion of repression, hatred, and works. Jesus gave us salvation freely by grace. You also wrong I hate no one, Muslim, student of Islam, or you. I do hate the one that deceived you. I pray that God will open your eyes and you will see the lies your entrapped in. Praying for you Ed |
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